Dusty car

Accumulator said:
I put zero stock in pix/videos on the internet. It`s hard enough to see/know what`s what first-hand IRL. "Yeah, that looks great, but let me inspect it in my shop so I know for sure.."

I put very limited stock in anything that works for somebody else until I have irrefutable evidence that it also works for me. And if I don`t buy the basic underlying premis I assume that the concept is fatally flawed at least with regard to working for me. Maybe that rather extreme skepticism is erring on the side of caution, but I *KNOW* that my vehicles look the way I want them to for years on end with no need for correction.

Even assuming that [various things I won`t do] can be done with complete success, just because one person can do something that doesn`t mean somebody else can too. And consider the learning curve too; how many times are you willing to mess up while getting dialed-in?
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^ Prolly every thing you need to know about detailing right here.


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re-tired said:
Finished detailing my new car yesterday per the recommendations from the friendly folks here on this forum-- turned out great!


But

Didn`t last long. We drove the car one time and the thing is covered in dust. So I used a waterless car cleaner from griots but that took a long time and was what i thought to be a lot of "work"

So

When your car gets "dusty "- do you folks go thru all that-- or can It be just sprayed / spritzed with detail spray and wiped down. I think a lot of it is brake dust as this thing puts out a ton of that

Looking to prevent those ultra fine scratches and swirl marx
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Before you give up on waterless products, try another brand. The Griot`s may be a fine product, but it`s the most time-consuming one I`ve ever used. Ultima and Duragloss, just to name a few, are just as safe, given proper technique, but dry streak-free with a lot less wiping.

Bill
 
`Thanks to all that replied

So

When do you use the detail spray?? After washing??

It was my assumption that it was for the lightly dusty car.
 
I`m no expert but my thought is some paint will tolerate it some won`t. Some paints seem to mar at the slightest anything even drying the car after a good wash with a non $40 towel. Some seem to take detail spray with any old microfiber and be just fine.

You really have to just try things for yourself and realize if in several months there is some marring. (There probably will be anyways for the average owner) that you may have to do some polishing

Some products hide pretty good. "Dri wash n guard" was one that was spray pretty much no matter the condition and rub down with a beach towel and the car looked pretty good. It wasn`t perfect and there was marring hidden no doubt but to the average joe looked good

Bottom line it`s all in your eyes. Sure a perfect 9 bucket wash with a DI water rinse and touch less drying is going to be the best way to leave the least marks but that`s not always what life dictates.


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MattPersman said:
Sure a perfect 9 bucket wash with a DI water rinse and touch less drying is going to be the best way to leave the least marks but that`s not always what life dictates.
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Thank you for the idea, now I know what to put on my Secret Santa want list........ :ph34r:
 
Swanicyouth said:
^ Prolly every thing you need to know about detailing right here...
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Heh heh, glad you found something nice to say about my sorta-rant :D

ReTired said:
When do you use the detail spray?? After washing??
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That *is* about the only time I use such stuff, as a Drying Aid. Or for the occasional bird-bomb, not that I worry much about those given the LSPs I`m using these days.

It`s just so risky to touch the paint in-between washes :(

FWIW, I use Garry Dean`s Infinite Use Detail Juice for that kind of thing- anything I`d use a riseless/waterless wash or QD to do. Pricier than some concentrates, but still cheap IMO when you consider the dilution (I use 2 oz + gallon water).

It was my assumption that it was for the lightly dusty car.
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At the risk ouf sounding like a cynical crank....yeah, the manufacturers/vendors always say that sort of thing so you buy the product. Then if/when you mar the finish it`s "your fault" for doing something wrong, but no worries as they`ll happily sell you polishes/etc. to fix it so you can start the endless cycle over again ;)

MattPersman said:
I`m no expert but my thought is some paint will tolerate it some won`t. Some paints seem to mar at the slightest anything even drying the car after a good wash with a non $40 towel...
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To my great disappointment, I`ve never had the supposed differences in hardness work *to my advantage* in any functional sense :( My supposedly "!rock hard!" vehicles, which take ages to correct, mar almost as easily as some softer paints and for practical purposes there`s no Real World difference for me. Just IME but I`ve never had one that was remotely "marring resistant" or anything like that, just ones that mar *easier* than I`m used to.

But then I simply wouldn`t *own* a stupid-soft paint like BMW Jet Black. Seriously, I`d sell the best car in the world if it were a big PIA to keep (my version of) presentable.
 
Ronkh- I`m serious, I couldn`t enjoy something that`s a PIA to keep the way I want it. I spend enough time on this [stuff] as it is. Sold a few vehicles I liked over that kind of thing with zero regrets.
 
Accumulator said:
Ronkh- I`m serious, I couldn`t enjoy something that`s a PIA to keep the way I want it. I spend enough time on this [stuff] as it is. Sold a few vehicles I liked over that kind of thing with zero regrets.
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Every black vehicle I owned I said never again. (loved em all, even the jb bmw)

Yep, that worked out well.
 
I bought a silver car this time so it will hide the dust. I love the look of darker cars but the dust drove me crazy!
 
Yeah, silver is easy to live with, though I find white even moreso for some reason, even if some kinds of dirt show more.

I stuck to my "no more dark colors!" except then the `93 Audi (Dark Blue) needed saved from the Cash for Clunkers. Eh, it`s the perfect color for that car so OK...honestly, I don`t do anything any differently based on what color`s underneath the clear, it`s just not so obvious that they need washed. Clearcoat is clearcoat and it`s either marred up or it`s not.
 
re-tired said:
Finished detailing my new car yesterday per the recommendations from the friendly folks here on this forum-- turned out great!


But

Didn`t last long. We drove the car one time and the thing is covered in dust. So I used a waterless car cleaner from griots but that took a long time and was what i thought to be a lot of "work"

So

When your car gets "dusty "- do you folks go thru all that-- or can It be just sprayed / spritzed with detail spray and wiped down. I think a lot of it is brake dust as this thing puts out a ton of that

Looking to prevent those ultra fine scratches and swirl marx
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As mentioned leave it alone or do a rinseless wash. I`ve been in a similar situation and have just done a waterless wash, but using multiple MF towels, spraying the panel heavily with the solution , using very wet MF towels and then drying it. Problem is all this still takes me a while, since I`m trying to be careful and avoid marring the paint.
 
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