duragloss paste wax 104, dissapointment

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roadmaster_Tx1

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So I decided to try out this wax after hearing about it in a couple of forums, but I was very dissapointed. On the instructions it says that I have let the wax "haze" prior to removing it. So after applying it to the fender, and I allowed 20-30 seconds atleast and then tried to remove it.

The wax had almost turned to cement, it was VERY hard to remove, not only that after removal there was alot of streaking left. I finally gave up on this wax after I gave it another shot on the hood, applyin as thin as I could, same result. Instead of all this I just went over the car with Aquawax.

Has anyone else had the same experience with this wax? Im gonna go to car quest and try to get a refund, hopefully they will take it back
 
Ya I was looking for 105, but they only had 111 and something else I forgot...but no 105..

Still..104 paste wax was horrible to say the least.. Didnt expect this from duragloss
 
I'm not sure 20-30 seconds is quite enough to actually let the wax haze. Unless you're in blazing sunlight, I'd wait about 10 minutes for it. I've tried 104, waited 10 minutes and had no problems removing.
 
Roadmater...was the 104 like a paste wax or more like a creme type wax....reason asking I have used 104..it was cremey like mayonaise....and I did a friends GTI with it...and it came off no problem..I did not do it in the sun..and car was cool in the shade...



one other thing....Warning....I found that buying from the Duragloss site ensures fresh products...the exception is 105 as it is new..I bought some 111 from Napa in April to do a friends car...they did not have it in stock..had to get from warehouse...It came next day at the store..when I got it the box looked old and dusty...the contents was not like I have gotten before...I called Duragloss and explained the product and the box..it had a free bug and tar cleaner and a sample of the shampoo..he asked for a number off the box..I was told it was a three year old product and was spoiled...and I was shipped a fresh one that day...so stores that do not move the product fast have old stock...



So best the buy from them and get fresh....



Now if I need some thing I will order it...in the sealant products...



AL
 
AL-53 said:
Roadmater...was the 104 like a paste wax or more like a creme type wax....reason asking I have used 104..it was cremey like mayonaise....and I did a friends GTI with it...and it came off no problem..I did not do it in the sun..and car was cool in the shade...



one other thing....Warning....I found that buying from the Duragloss site ensures fresh products...the exception is 105 as it is new..I bought some 111 from Napa in April to do a friends car...they did not have it in stock..had to get from warehouse...It came next day at the store..when I got it the box looked old and dusty...the contents was not like I have gotten before...I called Duragloss and explained the product and the box..it had a free bug and tar cleaner and a sample of the shampoo..he asked for a number off the box..I was told it was a three year old product and was spoiled...and I was shipped a fresh one that day...so stores that do not move the product fast have old stock...



So best the buy from them and get fresh....



Now if I need some thing I will order it...in the sealant products...



AL
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Yea, the wax was almost like mayo. I applied a thin layer and it just stuck like glue. How long did you have to wait before you buffed it out?
 
roadmaster_Tx said:
So your saying that I should wait atleast 10mintues? Im gonna have to try that when I get home. Hopefully I was wrong about this wax.
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I'm not saying that 10 minutes is THE "right" amount of time to wait. I'm saying that I waited 10 minutes and it worked fine for me. I was working in a garge with a car that hadn't been in the sun in at least 24 hours, so no surface heat. The garage temp was about 85. I applied with a finishing pad on my PC with the setting about 3-4. I removed with an excel erasure mf. Removal wasn't necessarily a breeze like I find with CMW or NB, but it was by no means as difficult as you described.



If it makes any difference, the finish was prepped with pre-VOC AIO.
 
Huarache said:
I'm not saying that 10 minutes is THE "right" amount of time to wait. I'm saying that I waited 10 minutes and it worked fine for me. I was working in a garge with a car that hadn't been in the sun in at least 24 hours, so no surface heat. The garage temp was about 85. I applied with a finishing pad on my PC with the setting about 3-4. I removed with an excel erasure mf. Removal wasn't necessarily a breeze like I find with CMW or NB, but it was by no means as difficult as you described.



If it makes any difference, the finish was prepped with pre-VOC AIO.
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Ill defintely give it a try, wait atleast 10minutes give or take. If not..I hope I can get my money back from Car Quest
 
Roadmaster...



I waited about 10 minutes...then wiped off...if i came to a stubborn spot I used the DG fast clean and shine to help remove it..I will say it does come off easy..but not as easy as some other waxes...the DG sealants 111 and 105 just about fall off when they dry or haze..so easy to remove....



But if you have a hard time removing it..try using a QD to help take it off...will not harm it



On the plus side..it does look nice in the final results....



one other thing..take a pencil or popsicle stick to stir it up..in case it seperated a little..never know...worth a try...





also they do offer a satisfaction guarantee...if not happy..keep in mind...

AL
 
lawrencea said:
Forget 104 use 105. with 105 you will be more then happy.
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Agreed. I even got that impression when I talked to one of the brothers at Duragloss awhile back when they were introducing 105.

105 is amazing.
 
After you see what 3 coats of 105 on top of the bonding agent, then toped with Aquawax looks like... it doesnt matter what their other products are like.
 
looks like Im gonna have to find some 105 on my side of town, but Im gonna give 104 a try again when I get home, let it "haze" for a longer then what I initially had. If not hopefully I can get a refund or try another prodcut
 
roadmaster_Tx said:
So I decided to try out this wax after hearing about it in a couple of forums, but I was very dissapointed. On the instructions it says that I have let the wax "haze" prior to removing it. So after applying it to the fender, and I allowed 20-30 seconds atleast and then tried to remove it.

The wax had almost turned to cement, it was VERY hard to remove, not only that after removal there was alot of streaking left. I finally gave up on this wax after I gave it another shot on the hood, applyin as thin as I could, same result. Instead of all this I just went over the car with Aquawax.

Has anyone else had the same experience with this wax? Im gonna go to car quest and try to get a refund, hopefully they will take it back
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Also what was the temperature outside? If the vehicle wasnt cooled down and in the shade, it could have baked the product to the car.
 
roadmaster_Tx said:
looks like Im gonna have to find some 105 on my side of town, but Im gonna give 104 a try again when I get home, let it "haze" for a longer then what I initially had. If not hopefully I can get a refund or try another prodcut
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the 105 IS the way to go....very nice product..and a great look....here is a pic of the 105 on my truck...hood shot....



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that was done in July..with 601 and 105..1 coat...i now have 3 on ..



Al
 
Well, outside the temp was in the 90's but since i was in the garage, the temp was much higher then it was outside and the car had been driven, and to be fair, it does say that the surface has tobe cool...maybe that was the reason why it hardened like that
 
AL-53 said:
one other thing....Warning....I found that buying from the Duragloss site ensures fresh products...the exception is 105 as it is new..I bought some 111 from Napa in April to do a friends car...they did not have it in stock..had to get from warehouse...It came next day at the store..when I got it the box looked old and dusty...the contents was not like I have gotten before...I called Duragloss and explained the product and the box..it had a free bug and tar cleaner and a sample of the shampoo..he asked for a number off the box..I was told it was a three year old product and was spoiled...and I was shipped a fresh one that day...so stores that do not move the product fast have old stock...
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That bothers me that they're claiming the product doesn't even have a 3 year shelf life. Even if that was my only wax (like any other Autopian, I have a decent collection), there's a very good chance it would last me longer than 3 years if I was using appropriately thin layers.
 
Well, I got home, tried 104 on a car that was already in the garage so the test panel would be cool, I allowed it to haze for more than 10 minutes. My results were nothing short of being craptacular. Maybe I got a bad batch, who knows? but I will be taking this back to Car Quest tommorow. Hopefully they will take it back.
 
I think their 104 is one of their older formulations, i.e. may not be utilizing the latest technology, like the 105 polish. Definitely try to find or order the 105.



Quick update on my 105 testing:



I washed my car last night (only has 1 coat of 105, with no PBA) and the beading was incredible! This is the first wash since I applied 105 to the car, and has been about 1 month since I had applied 105. Even through the light dirt coat, the car beaded up very very well, with plenty of little tight beads. I got no "dragging" of the wash mitt across the surface, still felt very slick, but part of this probably came from the 901 CWC. After the wash, the car again beaded very well and sheds water like a ducks back, as expected. My conclusion: even without the PBA, I think 105 is an outstanding polish/protectant. From 1 month of absolutely no maintainence to the finish (no QDs, no AW, no washes), the 105 has shown zero signs of failure or enlarged beading (signs of failure). 105 is their newest technology and it is a killer product. 105 would be far and above better than their paste wax. I still cant help but draw direct comparisons to the "Z" polishes with the way 105 performs. In nearly all respects, (beading, slickness, shine, water repellency/sheding, etc) it reacts VERY similarly to the Z.
 
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