Drying a new GT-R with shop rags

dfwgixxer

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I saw this today and had to snap a few pics. Guy was getting his GT-R washed and I saw the wash crew grab a stack of shop rags from a bucket and dry the car off. Makes me sick to see nice cars treated that way. You can see the rags on the hood.



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i hate to imagine what they used to wipe down the interior plastics *scratch city*... :faint:



p.s. did you talk to the owner or hand him a business card?
 
BigAl3 said:
i hate to imagine what they used to wipe down the interior plastics *scratch city*... :faint:



p.s. did you talk to the owner or hand him a business card?





I was going to but he was on his cell phone the whole time. You can see him on the other side of the car with the sunglasses on. I saw them spraying some really shiny dressing on the dash. The guys detailing his car really had no idea what they were doing. They were running a Turtle Wax special for $29.99. I'm sure they put strawberry air freshener in there too.
 
David Fermani said:
I bet the dealer told him they have self healing clearcoats.



So what is your opinion on the Nissan/Infinti self healing clearcoat? Any personal experience, positive or negative? I sense a nibble of sarcasm in your remark.



I'm interested since I'll be ordering a 2009 G37 sedan before years end.



Dean
 
You're right about the sarcasm. I personally don't feel it's a good product; especially for people who have to correct it. I think it's more marketing hype than a real world benefit. Self healing or not, it's still susceptible to environmental conditions and user abuse. I detailed a brand new white pearl G37S and it was riddled with acid rain pitting and water marks. My client actually fought with the dealer to buy it back because the finish was ruined. Here's a pic showing a little:



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David Fermani said:
You're right about the sarcasm. I personally don't feel it's a good product; especially for people who have to correct it. I think it's more marketing hype than a real world benefit. Self healing or not, it's still susceptible to environmental conditions and user abuse. I detailed a brand new white pearl G37S and it was riddled with acid rain pitting and water marks. My client actually fought with the dealer to buy it back because the finish was ruined. Here's a pic showing a little:



Interesting claim about the Nissan's self-healing paint. Too bad your example is not exactly true.:aww:



The 2008 EX35 is the only current Infiniti model with the "Scratch Shield" in the US market. The 2008 Infiniti G37S in your picture has the conventional clear coat without the new elastic resin. All upcoming 2009 Infiniti G models will have the "Scratch Shield" paint.



So unless you somehow managed to detail a 2009 G37S (which has yet to be released as of this date), your criticism of the technology needs a little more explaining.
 
Well, fwiw I worked on an EX and it was pretty much the same as working on any other car, as far as I could tell. It was fairly new so the swirling was light, but it had some. I tackled it the same way I would have a G35/37 etc..., it came out nice, but whatever technology the paint had didn't help or interfere with my work at all. It will be neat to see if over time these cars are easier to maintain. The skeptic in me thinks they won't be, but it'd be a nice surprise!



Dean - do you know if the GT-Rs have the scratch shield paint? I am guessing no, but you might know better.
 
Picus,



Glad to hear from someone with an unbiased, "real world" experience with the "Scratch Shield" finish on the EX35. Time will tell if it lives up to the hype, but so far I have not heard any legitimate negatives.



I don't think the GT-R has the "Scratch Shield" clearcoat, but it is obvious that Nissan is doing something special with this model:



GT-R’s advanced technology is present even in the vehicle’s paint, which utilizes a durable anti-chip paint and “double clear coat� process. A special seven-coat silver paint color is available, which is baked five times and is also hand-polished by craftsman.



Nissan/Infiniti News Room



Dean
 
Dean said:
Picus,



Glad to hear from someone with an unbiased, "real world" experience with the "Scratch Shield" finish on the EX35. Time will tell if it lives up to the hype, but so far I have not heard any legitimate negatives.



I don't think the GT-R has the "Scratch Shield" clearcoat, but it is obvious that Nissan is doing something special with this model:



GT-R’s advanced technology is present even in the vehicle’s paint, which utilizes a durable anti-chip paint and “double clear coat� process. A special seven-coat silver paint color is available, which is baked five times and is also hand-polished by craftsman.



Nissan/Infiniti News Room



Dean



Ya, I have to admit I am skeptical about that too. Under the hood of most Infiniti's there is a warning that the paint is "very hard", which we know to be completely untrue. We will see though. :)
 
Dean said:
Interesting claim about the Nissan's self-healing paint. Too bad your example is not exactly true.:aww:



The 2008 EX35 is the only current Infiniti model with the "Scratch Shield" in the US market. The 2008 Infiniti G37S in your picture has the conventional clear coat without the new elastic resin. All upcoming 2009 Infiniti G models will have the "Scratch Shield" paint.



So unless you somehow managed to detail a 2009 G37S (which has yet to be released as of this date), your criticism of the technology needs a little more explaining.



Forgive me for not taking too much interest in Nissans/Infinity to know all the ins and outs. Seems like Infinity/Nissan has been experimenting with different paint technology recently? Hard Clear Coat / Self Healing/Scratch Guard Coat/Self Leveling…...It’s actually been given several detailers quite a challenge. Check out this thread on a 08 G:

The famous sticky clear coat issue - Detailing Bliss Forum

I wonder if this was an experimental vehicle that got circulated into production?





Dean said:
Glad to hear from someone with an unbiased, "real world" experience with the "Scratch Shield" finish on the EX35. Time will tell if it lives up to the hype, but so far I have not heard any legitimate negatives.



I don't think the GT-R has the "Scratch Shield" clear coat, but it is obvious that Nissan is doing something special with this model:



GT-R’s advanced technology is present even in the vehicle’s paint, which utilizes a durable anti-chip paint and “double clear coat� process. A special seven-coat silver paint color is available, which is baked five times and is also hand-polished by craftsman.



Nissan/Infiniti News Room



Dean







They sure are doing something different. Maybe in a bad way? In case you missed this thread, this brand new GT-R’s finish was trashed from the factory. I guess the “craftsmen� called in sick the day they worked on this one:

http://www.autopia.org/forum/pro-de...-defects-runs-before-pictures-only-black.html



If I was buying a Nissan/Infinity, I'd make sure to look it over very closely for defects before purchasing it. Or, maybe they’ll just heal themselves? Try bringing your hair dryer with you at delivery.
 
wow I cant believe people really allow that done to their car.



for the record, the 09 FX has the self healing clear also.
 
Dean said:
So what is your opinion on the Nissan/Infinti self healing clearcoat? Any personal experience, positive or negative? I sense a nibble of sarcasm in your remark.



I'm interested since I'll be ordering a 2009 G37 sedan before years end.



Dean



Infiniti...year's, heheh
 
I think we tend to forget that not everyone is as critical about their vehicle's finish as we are. My dad is thrilled when he washed the car with an old sponge and a towel.



I personally would have been pissed if someone would have approached me and criticised me for having my car washed at a carwash.
 
I know of a local Full Service Tunnel wash that uses that color of towel, but they are a terry-cloth made for the industry. Of course we Autopians wouldn't use them, but they are par for the course at tunnels, and they are NOT shop towels. This guys may be though, hard to see 'em good enough.
 
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