Dreaming of... a Zaino Waterless Wash!

The most time consuming aspect of using Zaino is the Prep.







Never mind ALL LSP's require Prep. :nixweiss



If your finish is in great shape from constant care then applying Zaino is no different from applying any other sealant per directions except Clear Seal. The main advantage besides excellent appearance is that you are not "required" or feel the need to replenish or layer in order to maintain appearance and protection.



Multiple applications is a labor of love and a means to practice a hobby rather than a necessity. :xyxthumbs
 
Red98gt said:
The above post is exactly why Scottwax said "complicated"! That's my only problem with Zaino.. Seems waaayyyy too many steps when people talk about it.



Z this + Z that + Z morex100 + Z less + Z more x 5 + Z somemore = Nice shine?



and that's after polishing to remove swirls and/or scratches!



It's great stuff, I have used it and it worked very well, but just too many steps for me.
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I think you lack understanding of how Zaino REALLY works. I polished the hood of my car with ZPC with a rotary and it looked killer. I applied a coat of ZAIO. It looked killer. I could have stopped there. I decided to throw a coat of ZCS on it and quess what- it looked even more killerer. People layer Zaino because they WANT TO not because it's a requirement.
 
Red98gt said:
It's great stuff, I have used it and it worked very well, but just too many steps for me.
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I think ZAIO and CS are Sal's resposnse to that. Two easy steps and done. :)



I used ZAIO via Cyclo and topped with un-ZFX'ed Z5 Pro. Took under an hour.
 
wannafbody said:
I think you lack understanding of how Zaino REALLY works. I polished the hood of my car with ZPC with a rotary and it looked killer. I applied a coat of ZAIO. It looked killer. I could have stopped there. I decided to throw a coat of ZCS on it and quess what- it looked even more killerer. People layer Zaino because they WANT TO not because it's a requirement.
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Why is it, that when someone does not like Zaino products we get the same response everytime..."you dont understand" or "you are doing it wrong" or "you are using too much". Some people just do not like the products.



Me, I think that the Z2 & Z5 are great products.

I think Z8 is one of the best products in the entire industry.



But I think the competition has definately stepped up and delivered with products that rival or top them in many areas.

Take for instance the fact that ease of use was always a big sell for the Zaino stuff. Menzerna FMJ is by far the easiest I have found to take off of any vehicle. But now with CS it goes one step further.

We must remember that by having sooooooooo many great companies and products, it will only make it better for "us" the consumer in the long run.
 
joshtpa said:
Why is it, that when someone does not like Zaino products we get the same response everytime..."you dont understand" or "you are doing it wrong" or "you are using too much". Some people just do not like the products.



Me, I think that the Z2 & Z5 are great products.

I think Z8 is one of the best products in the entire industry.



But I think the competition has definately stepped up and delivered with products that rival or top them in many areas.

Take for instance the fact that ease of use was always a big sell for the Zaino stuff. Menzerna FMJ is by far the easiest I have found to take off of any vehicle. But now with CS it goes one step further.

We must remember that by having sooooooooo many great companies and products, it will only make it better for "us" the consumer in the long run.
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Most people ask questions for responses. When I reply that "you probably used to much" it is because most likely that person didn't realize that with Zaino the key is to spread the product as thin and as far as it will go. This gives better results and makes the product go farther. When people make comments like "Zaino is too complicated" it shows that they probably have a misunderstanding of the product line or how to select and apply the products. Cenrtainly other manufacturers have improved their product line- they had to in order to compete. In the end continuous improvement makes car care easier.
 
I was a Z doubter, thought it sounded too complicated. Have to mix ZFX and blah blah blah. Finally, I broke down and bought it. IT is the EASIEST product I've ever used. Lasted LONGER than anything I've every used. The new ZAIO and CS even take that arguement away. I would buy the new products, but the old ones last so long, when would I use them.



I do find it interesting that now that we have Polycharger, which requires mixing, I don't see everyone condemning how "hard" it is to use.



I don't want to argue Z is better/worse, but it is a fine product. People here are more anal about their work, otherwise, why would we apply 2 sealants, and then 2 or 3 different carnuba toppers, and then a spray sealant? OF course people will say you need to do 3 layers of Z5 followed by 3 layers of Z2 followed by Z8 followed by CS. That's our mentality. Even Sal doesn't suggest that. A layer or 2 will work great, especially if you try an occasional Z8 after a wash.



So, with that in mind, a waterless wash would be nice, I guess.
 
SamIam said:
I do find it interesting that now that we have Polycharger, which requires mixing, I don't see everyone condemning how "hard" it is to use.
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You don't see me using it, do you? ;)



'Hard' has nothing to do with it in the end. Too many good products that don't require mixing and even Z2 and Z5 can be used over ZAIO without mixing in ZFX. I'll always take the 'grab and go' product over the 'mix' product assuming I consider appearance and durability on par with both.
 
Scottwax said:
You don't see me using it, do you? ;)



'Hard' has nothing to do with it in the end. Too many good products that don't require mixing and even Z2 and Z5 can be used over ZAIO without mixing in ZFX. I'll always take the 'grab and go' product over the 'mix' product assuming I consider appearance and durability on par with both.
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+1 for that.
 
Scott,



You got me there:D



You're right though, ZAIO and then Z2 would work great, and then you are into the AIO and SC type of product application process.



I appreciate the fact you've tried all the products and use the ones you like, including I recall, an occasional Z8.



Fact is, i don't know all that much about Z, just that it works well, lasts a long time and is easy to work with. I also know I have a garage full of 1Z products, as well as AIO/SC, Collinite, and a few other things out there I've forgotten about.



I am at a point I am going to use up what I have before I buy anymore.......did that sound believeable?:chuckle:



However, I am using only Z on the minivan, cause when you detail it, it takes a longggg day!



Scottwax said:
You don't see me using it, do you? ;)



'Hard' has nothing to do with it in the end. Too many good products that don't require mixing and even Z2 and Z5 can be used over ZAIO without mixing in ZFX. I'll always take the 'grab and go' product over the 'mix' product assuming I consider appearance and durability on par with both.
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