Dr Oldz Nuba Thread (Master Edition)

[Farmall-luvr]

cool,,this thread is definately going to be more than a trip down to NAPA to grab some wax,,lol,,,I`m curious if you have a picture of your wax collection?

 

[JustJesus]

I still like that look, BFMS is still a personal favorite.

Always wanted to try one of the Dodo Juice offerings. Hoping Mary B chimes into this thread at some point.

I`m still waiting to see the Kia in the daylight Looks good in the evening lighting, though!

I have a 6 pack of little Dodos, but never got around to use them. Admittedly, I bought them cuz I liked the colors. haha. I gave one to a coworker and he absolutely loved it. He`s not a car guy, but likes a clean car. When I told him the price I paid for it....yeah, he won`t be buying one for himself.

 

[JustJesus]

Rubbish Boys Original Edition

It is certainly a unique wax that is hand made and has a neat history behind it. For me this wax is always a winner although it isn`t the easiest wax to use.

Thanks for posting. I`ll look into their site and their history. Sounds cool

 

[Accumulator]

Wonder how many of these are trim-friendly...a few on my list are.

Heh heh, I`m always a bit cynical about Dodo Juice because of the "Detailing Expert" who confidently proclaimed that the car I did with 476S had one DJ`s exotic offerings on it ("it`s obvious that it`s [whichever one he said] nothing else looks quite like that!"). Shame I wasn`t on-hand, I could`ve, uhm...enlightened...him.

OK, here are the ones that I like, even if I haven`t used any of them for years...

Usual suspects:
-Pinnacle Souveran
-Collinite`s various paste waxes (are we calling those carnaubas?)
-Meguiar`s M16 (a "bright" wax, and...same Q?)
-Meguiar`s M26 ( a "deep" wax)

Unusual suspects:
-Malm`s liquid (very *very* good/under-appreciated stuff, AFAIK only JustJesus has/uses it)
-3M Showcar Paste Wax (pre-VOC version- easy as Souveran IME, extremely hydrophobic, nice middle-of-road look)

Yeah, a few of the ones on most anybody`s favorites-list are NOT on mine; one try with P21s on the Jag and it went in the trash.

 

[Dr Oldz]

I usually comment about trim friendly waxes I am SURE are or aren’t. RBOE I’m not sure. But I don’t wax trim and I’m careful applying wax so it’s a nonissue for me.

About your “detailing expert”. Let’s face it.... no one can tell what wax is on a vehicle. I certainly can’t. What really matters is the prep. You can put a $2000 wax on a turd and it’s still a turd.

Any lsp with Nuba in it is game. Other ingriedents allowed. I’ll even do a few sealants from time to time if they are worthy.

 

[Dr Oldz]

Swissvax Shield




Shield is an offering from Swissvax. First thing I will mention about any Swissvax offering is that they claim to get some stupidly low number of applications out of a jar. Think like 10 or so. That’s BS. Properly applied they can all give 25+ applications. This is their consumer version of a PTFE infused wax. You know the Teflon effect.

Swissvax pots remind me of Yeti coolers. Look huge on The outside but have thick walls holding 200ml of wax.

This wax smells really good. Grapefruit like.

Application on is a breeze as this wax transfers to you applicator of choice very nicely. I again prefer machine application. Goes on paintwork very smoothly.

Removal is to be done after 5-10 min when it hazes over a bit. I do 2 or 3 panels depending on size then remove. Really any quality MF will remove this easily. It’s super easy. Afterwards I’ll go over the whole vehicle for a final wipe down with a plusher MF and to buff it up to a high gloss. It is trim friendly.

The look is is nice with it leaning more to the glossy side rather than the wet look while still adding some depth and shimmer.

Lets discuss its “Teflon” effect: Do not expect everything to slide and not stick to it. What I will say is that tar, bugs and road film will wash off slightly easier with just water from a pressure washer. You can get away with a coin-op rinse with plain water then the filtered rinse(no spot) and have a decently clean vehicle between regular contact washes.

Swissvax talks about baking in the sun after application with their waxes. Does it help or do anything in the real world??? I can’t tell but I will say this wax does get a tad better looking after the vehicle sits for a few hours in the sun or not.

I have not found any advantage from layering this wax.

Durability can can extend to 6 months if pushed but 4 months is where I look to reapply!

It sheets water nicely and is and is a fairly good beader!

I believe this holds a $200 price tag currently.

 

[Billy Jack]

Nice to see you back in action with your reviews. Since I already did the lion`s share of the cut and paste work while L2D was still alive, I`ll continue updating with your new entries.

Bill

 

[Accumulator]

I usually comment about trim friendly waxes I am SURE are or aren’t. RBOE I’m not sure. But I don’t wax trim and I’m careful applying wax so it’s a nonissue for me...

Ah, interesting! I`ve been waxing (or otherwise LSPing) my exterior trim since the `80s, basically the only approach I use on it.

The Souveran and Malms are absolutely trim-friendly IME. NEVER had any issues with them in that regard as long as I did it right.

I figure we`re not talking Spray Waxes on this thread...those are great on trim IME.

About your “detailing expert”. Let’s face it.... no one can tell what wax is on a vehicle. I certainly can’t. What really matters is the prep. You can put a $2000 wax on a turd and it’s still a turd.

Yeah, that bag-of-wind was a laugh..some people Don`t know if he`d done any of the cars at that show, but nothing I saw looked like an "after" to me besides the one I did

Heh heh, I wouldn`t know from vehicles in the "turd" category, zero nasty vehicles in my life But yeah...I`m just taking for granted that we`re talking "marring-free and kept that way" vehicles; IMO that`s the ground floor of Detailing.

I generally agree with not being able to say which wax is on something, but sometimes you can tell between a few choices, at least when you`re very familiar with the paint in question:

My wife can tell *instantly* whether I`d done her car with Souveran or something else..."hey, that`s not the same wax it usually has, is it?" She simply *knows* what that wax looks like on that paint, which really surprised me the first time...she literally just walked into the shop, not knowing I`d rewaxed it, looked at it, and asked. And she wasn`t happy...but I got tired of redoing it all the time.

I`d expect anybody to notice the diffs between M26 and M16 on some colors, but that`s all..."they`re different and this one`s more/less [whatever]..." and while it`s not a wax, I`ve called Zaino on numerous vehicles; it`s "signature look", which I don`t care for, is sometimes pretty obvious.

But no...for somebody to look at an unfamiliar car and say what`s on it? That I`d have to see to believe, but hey...people surprise me all that time.

Any lsp with Nuba in it is game. Other ingriedents allowed. I’ll even do a few sealants from time to time if they are worthy.

AFAIK there`s no carnauba in FK1000P, and there`s sure none in KSG, and I *guess* there`s none in OCW but I don`t really know.

We`re not counting Collinite 845/IW are we...another great one for exterior trim.

OH...and before I forget it again...I too can really like applying (and sometimes even buffing off) wax by machine. I always use more/excessive product doing it that way, but I`m pretty fanatical about using the minimum when I`m doing it by hand (any tin of wax besides Souveran will last me around a decade, sometimes longer).

 

[Accumulator]

Dr. Oldz- Regarding the Swissvax Shield, what do you like about it? I suspect you did *not* intend for us to read your take on it as negative, but gee...that`s how I`m interpretting it! Although I sure like the sound of it smelling like grapefruit Other than that, why might one choose it?

 

[acuRAS82]

AFAIK there`s no carnauba in FK1000P, and there`s sure none in KSG, and I *guess* there`s none in OCW but I don`t really know.

OCW contains carnauba, to my knowledge. Maybe not much?

 

[Mike lambert]

Welcome back! While we do about 95 percent coatings, I still love just waxing a vehicle! I’m sure you’ve done a Griot’s Best of Show, which I hated years ago, now has got to be the easiest wax to remove. Thank you for your time!

 

[Dr Oldz]

Dr. Oldz- Regarding the Swissvax Shield, what do you like about it? I suspect you did *not* intend for us to read your take on it as negative, but gee...that`s how I`m interpretting it! Although I sure like the sound of it smelling like grapefruit Other than that, why might one choose it?

its kinda my idea to let people make their own decision from what I convey. Why Might you choose it??? Good question. Easy on/off. Smells awesome. Respectful durability. Releases dirt and grime a bit easier that other waxes and you have a spare $200 you want to spend on a wax. Wasn’t necessarily my intention to give a negative review but more so to debunk Swissvax marketing ploy for this wax.

 

[Dr Oldz]

Ah, interesting! I`ve been waxing (or otherwise LSPing) my exterior trim since the `80s, basically the only approach I use on it.

The Souveran and Malms are absolutely trim-friendly IME. NEVER had any issues with them in that regard as long as I did it right.

I figure we`re not talking Spray Waxes on this thread...those are great on trim IME.



Yeah, that bag-of-wind was a laugh..some people Don`t know if he`d done any of the cars at that show, but nothing I saw looked like an "after" to me besides the one I did

Heh heh, I wouldn`t know from vehicles in the "turd" category, zero nasty vehicles in my life But yeah...I`m just taking for granted that we`re talking "marring-free and kept that way" vehicles; IMO that`s the ground floor of Detailing.

I generally agree with not being able to say which wax is on something, but sometimes you can tell between a few choices, at least when you`re very familiar with the paint in question:

My wife can tell *instantly* whether I`d done her car with Souveran or something else..."hey, that`s not the same wax it usually has, is it?" She simply *knows* what that wax looks like on that paint, which really surprised me the first time...she literally just walked into the shop, not knowing I`d rewaxed it, looked at it, and asked. And she wasn`t happy...but I got tired of redoing it all the time.

I`d expect anybody to notice the diffs between M26 and M16 on some colors, but that`s all..."they`re different and this one`s more/less [whatever]..." and while it`s not a wax, I`ve called Zaino on numerous vehicles; it`s "signature look", which I don`t care for, is sometimes pretty obvious.

But no...for somebody to look at an unfamiliar car and say what`s on it? That I`d have to see to believe, but hey...people surprise me all that time.



AFAIK there`s no carnauba in FK1000P, and there`s sure none in KSG, and I *guess* there`s none in OCW but I don`t really know.

We`re not counting Collinite 845/IW are we...another great one for exterior trim.

OH...and before I forget it again...I too can really like applying (and sometimes even buffing off) wax by machine. I always use more/excessive product doing it that way, but I`m pretty fanatical about using the minimum when I`m doing it by hand (any tin of wax besides Souveran will last me around a decade, sometimes longer).

i guess trim can be an unclear topic. A lot of people consider the black plastics as trim. That’s more what I’m referring to.

Sure I can tell what wax is on my vehicle. But to walk up to a random vehicle and say that is so and so wax is impossible.

FK1000 is all synthetic

845 and OCW both contain Nuba.


I think I use less product when machine applying. I have a bottle of 845 that is just under half full with about 40 or so applications out of it. Seems to me that all the paste go further with machine application also.

 

[rlmccarty2000]

To my eyes the Nubas with the most oils look the deepest and darkest (like Souveran). Less oils and more Nuba creates more shine and pop on metallics. These are just generalizations based on my experiences with waxes.

 

[Farmall-luvr]

To my eyes the Nubas with the most oils look the deepest and darkest (like Souveran). Less oils and more Nuba creates more shine and pop on metallics. These are just generalizations based on my experiences with waxes.

interesting observation,,I have a can of Car Brite easy off blue Nuba at work that I just love to use on silvers,light blues beige and gray after I polish.
While it`s not my go to wax for Vettes it`s just fine for a used Cruze or Malibu`s but it does have kind of solvent smell to it that I don`t really like.

 

[Accumulator]

OCW contains carnauba, to my knowledge. Maybe not much?

Huh, that surprises me.

 

[Accumulator]

its kinda my idea to let people make their own decision from what I convey.. Wasn’t necessarily my intention to give a negative review but more so to debunk Swissvax marketing ploy for this wax.

Heh heh, consider it indeed debunked for this person, and it was pretty easy to, uhm...make my decision.

Releases dirt and grime a bit easier that other waxes..

Huh, and here the way *I* interpreted your review it sounded pretty mediocre in that regard!

I think I use less product when machine applying. I have a bottle of 845 that is just under half full with about 40 or so applications out of it. Seems to me that all the paste go further with machine application also.

Ah yeah...different people end up on different sides of that fence. I`m awfully extreme about the "minimal product" when LSPing, no way I could ever use less doing it by machine. Sure do like it with some LSPs though!

 

[Accumulator]

i guess trim can be an unclear topic. A lot of people consider the black plastics as trim. That’s more what I’m referring to...

Sorry, didn`t mean to be ambiguous In this context I lumped everything, from hard plastic to exterior rubber seals, together. Eh, my bad...that`s painting with an awfully broad brush.

I remember all the Chicken Little predicting it would trash some of those materials "because of the petroleum distillates" and then expressing surprise that I`d already been doing it for decades with zero issues.

 

[Accumulator]

To my eyes the Nubas with the most oils look the deepest and darkest (like Souveran). Less oils and more Nuba creates more shine and pop on metallics. These are just generalizations ...

My wife somehow views Souveran on (Audi) silver completely different! She thinks it makes the metallic pop so much that "the silver looks kinda white"...she remembers it as "the White Wax" not for how it looks in the jar, but for how it made her car look. Eye of the beholder and all that, but I always thought that was a little odd.

Heh heh, all this wax talk is *almost* enough to make me want to wax something or at least go open up a can of something from Way Back and relive those days. Almost

Gee, I haven`t communed with my `77 tin of ProWax for ages...

 

[Dr Oldz]

I know Dr G has said OCW contains nuba. The AG web site says it also.
https://www.autogeek.net/optimum-spray-wax.html