Does the SSR line contain fillers?

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I wanna remove all the marring from my car and not just hide it. I was wondering if *All* of poorboy's SSR polishes contain fillers or not. :nixweiss



I know the Menzerna Ceramiclears don't but those are abit pricy for me.



Please let me know your thoughts,



Thanks.
 
I use them quite a bit and honestly have no idea. I can't remeber ever doing an IPA wipe down after polishing. I do use AIO after them from time to time, but I don't know what that really proves. I like them becasue they allow me to work in the sun, are a breeze to work with, and are relatively inexpensive. If they have fillers, it is not an issue for me. :nixweiss



*edtit* Now that I think about it, I would actually prefer them to have fillers. I like fillers as they allow my finish to look better without removing as much clear. I like to polish once per year (twice tops) for the rest of the time I like to use VERY mild products like 1Z MP, AIO, etc. I even use glazes under my lsp.
 
I do not believe they contain any significant amount of fillers. If they did, using a paint cleaner after using the SSRs would only make marring reappear, and that has not been my experience.
 
I don't believe they contain any significant amount of fillers either. I've detailed about 10 cars using this product and the abrasives in the formula definitely are permanently removing the swirls in the paint. You can see the results by doing two passes and wiping off the residue with MF in between and noting the reduced amount of swirls and you can also feel a much smoother, very slick clearcoat left behind.
 
Looking at a surface that has fillers present is supposed to give the look of being perfect as that is the purpose of the fillers. There is the need to do an IPA wipe down to be SURE that there are no fillers present. That said I haven't done this with the SSR's and can't answer the question.
 
Isopropyl Alcohol



The wipe down is done by spraying a 50/50 mixture of IPA and distilled water onto the surface, allowing it to dwell a few seconds and then wiping it away. If there are fillers they would then be removed to show the true surface.
 
I think you have to be careful with IPA since it is a strong chemical...you can probably more easily tell by looking closely and by feeling the surface, maybe with the "baggie test".



In any event, its very clear that SSRs have diminishing abrasives that actually polish to remove swirls.



I'm really at a loss to understand why this has become an issue on Autopia the past two weeks...
 
SilverLexus said:
I think you have to be careful with IPA since it is a strong chemical...you can probably more easily tell by looking closely and by feeling the surface, maybe with the "baggie test".



In any event, its very clear that SSRs have diminishing abrasives that actually polish to remove swirls.



I'm really at a loss to understand why this has become an issue on Autopia the past two weeks...
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The "baggie" test is for surface contaminates not fillers or swirls. Sometimes things become issues just because they do. There have been a number of products that issues have been made of and then it all settles down and things go on and something else becomes the issue. Some people want proof that something does what it claims to do and they have that right to know as it's their money that's being spent.
 
"Some people want proof that something does what it claims to do and they have that right to know as it's their money that's being spent."



Fair enough, but isn't it obvious that Poorboy's products have diminishing abrasives that work? You can feel the grittiness in the purple solution of SSR2.5, for instance...



And why question just Poorboy's? After all this is one of the better polishes that Autopians have used over the years just judging from comments here.



It just seems so obvious to me that the product works as advertised.



This is akin to asking if Zaino contains sealants or Souveran has real carnauba. :D
 
DACP is the perfect example of a good polish (difficult to use at times) that has diminishing abrasives AND some fillers. DACP is also a polish that has been called into question in the past. Does it work? Sure it does. Does it have fillers? Yep once again. Is it a bad polish? Not at all. Same thing applies to SSR 2.5. It's a good polish that's very easy to use but just might have some fillers. Don't take it as being a baaaad thing though.
 
A 50/50 solution of alcohol/water is not that potent. Heck, I use full strength 70% IPA to remove sap and there has never been any damage caused.



Even if the SSR line did contain a significant amount of fillers--I do not believe they do--rubbing your hand on the surface, visually inspecting, or using the bag test would do nothing to prove or disprove the question of containing fillers. The only way to tell for sure is to clean the paint with the IPA/water solution or use a pure paint cleaner that leaves nothing behind. I have done the latter and the swirls/minor scratches/other marring were in fact removed.



I am growing tired of the recent Poorboy's threads but if they are valid questions (this one is) and they remain civil, ask away. However, the accusations and spreading of false information need to be stopped.
 
If I have a reason to think WHAT is false? One of the people that was spreading slander has already been banned.



Keep this thread civil. God knows the others have not and the one that did stay civil for a while, is on the verge of sinking.
 
In the first thread, there is an implication that PB is just fillers. The following was said:



"I wanna remove all the marring from my car and not just hide it. I was wondering if *All* of poorboy's SSR polishes contain fillers or not."



That seems to be going well past suggesting a mix of abrasives and fillers.
 
I think any filling properties you get with SSRs are a by-product of the ingredients and not necessarily a completely intended function of the product. I've followed SSR2.5 and 2 quite frequently with AIO (which does tend to remove some of the TS oils in #80) and haven't noticed any degredation of the polishing effect.
 
http://warnerchemical.com/index.php?cPath=8



In this link you see the expensive compounds have no silicone fillers, but the cheap compounds don't state they don't have silicone fillers. Silicone products are usually easy to use and work good in sun, the silicone oil and some other cheap fillers makes it so it's harder for the heat to dry it out. It is possible to have filling capabilties in a product but still remove the swirls anyhow. The fillers are usually things pro's look for in one step detailing, as opposed to non fillers being the choice of many enthuseists and body shops, IMO. When I was spitting out details a good quick polish and slash and dash wax that was cheap was exactly what I was looking for.
 
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