Does Klasse AIO remove swirls

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I'm about to Klasse my car for the first time and I don't know if I should use something else for my swirls(I use 3m IHG) prior to Klasse or if it will take care of those swirls for me.
 
I would use a SMR in addition to Klasse. I don't remember if AIO claims to remove swirls or not, but I have never notice it to do so.
 
Hey GTO:



When you say first timer cars, do you mean cars that have never been detailed before, including brand new cars without any swirlmarks??
 
use SMR.... AIO gives your car this buttery soft protective layer, but no swirl removal... at least none that are noticeable....



they claim to remove swirls, but I think it's BS.. :D



I also haven't really seen what / if any differences there are after I did 3x SG too... very -_-
 
68GTO said:


As for SG, it's mostly for the extra protection over AIO. I gotta tell you the truth I don't see much difference in layering either. And I am REAL skeptical of all the claims some people here make about seeing all these incredibly subtle differences....
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Not to say you're pointing the finger at me or anything, but I became a believer of Klasse SG after doing this test: http://www.autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12891



I should run a more controlled experiment on applying SG someday. :)
 
I've noticed a difference when using SG over AIO. AIO gives it a lot of reflection, and then the SG seems to deepen the color more and sort of "glow". When you put another coat of SG, it seems to get a little more deep.



That doesn't mean I could look at a car and tell you what is on it. How would I even know what the car looked like before? But that's not what happens. I know what the car looked like before, so I can make a pretty good comparison with what it looks like now. If you just showed me a car, I could tell you it looks great, but clearly I couldn't tell you what product you used on it.
 
AIO will remove the IHG so there is no reason to use IHG and AIO. They don't work together ( I tried).



AIO has never removed any swirls for me but it does a good job of cleaning the paint and is very easy to use.



SG has always improved the gloss and I find a big difference between one layer and three layers of SG.



Just my 2 cents.



BTW: The search has always been on for trying to find a good glaze that will work with a polymer. That is like the best of both worlds
 
68GTO said:
Aurora40: OK, let's say we start with 4 cars that have all been AIOed and had one layer of SG. I let you look at em. Then I put two layers on one and three layers on another and ask you to tell me which has one, two and three layers. Would you bet pinks?
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Well, no. But I'm not talking about 4 random cars. I'm talking about my cars, with which I am quite familiar. And I certainly don't think I could tell if there were one, two, or three coats. What I could tell is if you did something to the car. It would look different, be it better or worse. If I AIO'd then SG'd my car, I interacted with it for a few days, and then you came over and mabye SG'd again, or maybe left it alone, then yeah. I could probably tell if you put another coat on or if you just left it alone. I think it would look different enough. I don't think I could tell if you put on one more coat or three, but I could tell something was different.



Really, though, let's suppose it is all in my head. I think the car looks better, right? Isn't that ultimately what's important?
 
68GTO said:
4DSC: Good thread. But I was really referring to the incredibly subtle differences that some people claim they detect between let's say one coat of SG and three coats of SG. I'm talking strictly visual differences. Maybe it's my failing eyesight, but as I say, I'm prone to think that this is a clear case of the power of suggestion over the power of sight. I just kinda have to laugh at some of these claims.
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Oh yeah, I'm with you on that one! :p I try to avoid judging shine and differences in looks from one product to another or even multiple coats (which I do anyway :rolleyes: ) because of this. Instead I usually comment on ease of use, slickness, durability, swirl reduction, or some other more easily quantifiable aspect of a product. That is not to say some people cannot tell the visual difference, because I'm sure some can, but I often take such appearance judgements with a grain of salt because it's such a subjective thing.



Sometimes during individual processes though, I'll comment on improved looks when it smacks me in the face! :p Like when I glazed a swirled-up black car once.
 
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