do you guys think this is for real

lbls1 said:
BTW: Anyone that is "foolish" enough to be able to afford to spend $5,000 on wax can manage my finances anytime. I want to know what he or she is doing right to be able to spend that amount freely just for cleaning their car(s).
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For all you know the people could have won a lottery or inherited the cash that lets them spend foolishly. Even if they did earn the money that doesn't change the fact that paying $5000 for a detail or $1500 for wax is stupid behaviour. If I was a millionaire and earned every cent but paid $1000 for a pack of gum I would be moron. You couldn't say that I must be doing something right because I could afford to pay that.

Zymol knows that there is no shortage of people who believe that paying more = better. You could put identical products in the same container and tell these people that one is selling for $1500 and one for $3. The people would convince themselves that $1500 product looked twice as good, lasted 10 times as long, and was the greatest thing going even though the products were exactly the same. I don't think Zymol or any other company like that should be praised for taking advantage of idiots.
 
lbls1 said:
(I fluently use p21s on my daily driver, and there is a significant difference in appearance between the waxes IMO.)
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You're missing the whole point of both sides of the discussion, IN YOUR OPINION. In my opinion, I can get as good or better results in a more "cost effective" manner. I've used quite a bit of different waxes, and honestly, unless I really examine the finish, I won't be able to tell the difference between wax A and wax B, and most of the time neither would anyone else.

You can't blame Zymol for marketing it this way really. It's like that in almost every facet of business. Some folks think that because something costs more, that it has more worth or value than something that costs less. That's not the case, as worth or value is subjective to the person.
 
JaredPointer said:
You're missing the whole point of both sides of the discussion, IN YOUR OPINION. In my opinion, I can get as good or better results in a more "cost effective" manner. I've used quite a bit of different waxes, and honestly, unless I really examine the finish, I won't be able to tell the difference between wax A and wax B, and most of the time neither would anyone else.

You can't blame Zymol for marketing it this way really. It's like that in almost every facet of business. Some folks think that because something costs more, that it has more worth or value than something that costs less. That's not the case, as worth or value is subjective to the person.
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I think you've missed the point all together. It isn't necessarily what you consider as good or better in terms of waxes. It is what the buying public has regarded as a good product that has kept Zymol in business for a long time. So, unless you've recently designed a new wax, or judged several concours events, or even designed any type of lsp, Zymol's credibility would carry more weight (along with their results of course).......IMO!

BTW: What does "winning the lottery" or being rich have to do with recognizing and appreciating a good lsp??? That point is baseless, and unless you can objectively evaluate the difference (there is a difference....whether you want to consider it or not) between a typical otc wax and/or many lsp's vs. a EGZymol, you may never get the chance to see whether it will really outperform the lsp that you are currently using.
 
So, unless you've recently designed a new wax, or judged several concours events, or even designed any type of lsp, Zymol's credibility would carry more weight (along with their results of course).......IMO!
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Sounds like some of my resume. Does that make me qualified to have an opinion about Zymol now?
 
OK, for the record....

At one Poorboys Detail Day, I did a side-by-side comparision of two waxes:

Souveran and Nattys. Both on same panels.

We had numerous people look at each and ask which one is which and why.

In the end, only one person guessed correctly and was also correct as to why.

If someone wants to spend big $$ on wax, so be it, but in reality, it's a matter of choosing a wax for the color/type of finish to obtain same or better results than high-end waxes.

I remember when Zymol first started. He was "cooking up" waxes in his Stamford home. Now moved to an industrial area in CT, it's still as I like to call it a "Martha Steward" of waxes. Alot of custom oils and blends to obtain a wax. Most of them is nothing more than expensive oils. Remember the main ingredient is caranuba and no matter where you get it in raw/bulk/refind form, it still costs the same as any other mfg of wax. Give or take a few $$ for location, shipping and volume. After that, it's oils/carriers for the wax.

Hey, if you "feel" superior by using a boutique wax, fine by me, but next time, let me know and I'll sell you some Dr. Shine wax called "Shine-ola" for $1500.:D

Regards,
Deanski
 
Deanski said:
Hey, if you "feel" superior by using a boutique wax, fine by me, but next time, let me know and I'll sell you some Dr. Shine wax called "Shine-ola" for $1500.:D

Regards,
Deanski
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Maybe you can charge $5000 and detail their cars with it.
 
So in conclusion..who needs to waste 15.00 on a can of wax when Big Lots sells Turtle Wax for 2.99 :lmfao
 
The Turtle Wax Platinum Ultra Gloss Paste Wax (TWPUG) is a great product. It is somewhat lacking in durability, but IMO it looks amazingly deep and wet. I still prefer my boutique products but if you can get TWPUG for $2.99 you should pick it up. You'll be pleasantly surprised.
 
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