Do you ever leave scratches on a 3 stage?

OK - I will not comment on doing free labor to try to "build your business" but Jet Black BMW is one of the worst paint to try to correct. But at least after JB EVERYTHING else will be easier from now on. :D:D:D



1 - a pc type of polisher will always finish better over a forced rotation DA like the 3401. So next time, use your pc for the final polishing step before your wax/sealants.



2 - D301 - 100% sure that it hides. Nothing wrong with that, but it is good to be aware of. The good news is that most paints, especially "other than flat black" will finish down just fine. You will love metallic black.



3 - Selling your services, it is your (our) responsibility to come up with the right package. Not everyone needs 100% - a 9 year old black car in that shape tells me that it will get worse sooner than later. Sell your correction services on an hourly basis and that way everyone wins. If they want perfection, you will make a good chunk of $$$, if 75% is good enough, you'll be done fairly quickly and you save yourself time/stress and your customers save $$$



With time, you will learn all this on your own.



PS: no sun in New Mexico? What's up with that?



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thomasdekany said:
OK - I will not comment on doing free labor to try to "build your business" but Jet Black BMW is one of the worst paint to try to correct. But at least after JB EVERYTHING else will be easier from now on. :D:D:D



1 - a pc type of polisher will always finish better over a forced rotation DA like the 3401. So next time, use your pc for the final polishing step before your wax/sealants.



2 - D301 - 100% sure that it hides. Nothing wrong with that, but it is good to be aware of. The good news is that most paints, especially "other than flat black" will finish down just fine. You will love metallic black.



3 - Selling your services, it is your (our) responsibility to come up with the right package. Not everyone needs 100% - a 9 year old black car in that shape tells me that it will get worse sooner than later. Sell your correction services on an hourly basis and that way everyone wins. If they want perfection, you will make a good chunk of $$$, if 75% is good enough, you'll be done fairly quickly and you save yourself time/stress and your customers save $$$



With time, you will learn all this on your own.



PS: no sun in New Mexico? What's up with that?



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I wanted to reply but was waiting for someone with more variety of experience in modern OEM paint. I have worked on a variety of paint systems but mostly restoration involved. The broad spectrum of how paint reacts just comes with time. I just had to say his advice is spot on. Its something I had to learn the hard way once on my own even with a following starting out after many years. Corrections can go many ways. One can be a breeze, the other a time consuming nightmare; how you balance it in the end counts.



A really great response Thomas.



John
 
thomasdekany said:
OK - I will not comment on doing free labor to try to "build your business" but Jet Black BMW is one of the worst paint to try to correct. But at least after JB EVERYTHING else will be easier from now on. :D:D:D



1 - a pc type of polisher will always finish better over a forced rotation DA like the 3401. So next time, use your pc for the final polishing step before your wax/sealants.



2 - D301 - 100% sure that it hides. Nothing wrong with that, but it is good to be aware of. The good news is that most paints, especially "other than flat black" will finish down just fine. You will love metallic black.



3 - Selling your services, it is your (our) responsibility to come up with the right package. Not everyone needs 100% - a 9 year old black car in that shape tells me that it will get worse sooner than later. Sell your correction services on an hourly basis and that way everyone wins. If they want perfection, you will make a good chunk of $$$, if 75% is good enough, you'll be done fairly quickly and you save yourself time/stress and your customers save $$$



With time, you will learn all this on your own.



PS: no sun in New Mexico? What's up with that?



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I'm on the same page now about free labor, and selling services. Will posting to this thread after Mothers Day Duties



http://www.autopia.org/forum/detailing-business-management-marketing/140285-anyone-offering-low-budget-package.html#



Appreciate the time you've taken to respond.



Raining now. A mixed blessing. We've got drought conditions and as you may know, for the last few years some major forest fires
 
CONCOURS.JOHN said:
I wanted to reply but was waiting for someone with more variety of experience in modern OEM paint. I have worked on a variety of paint systems but mostly restoration involved. The broad spectrum of how paint reacts just comes with time. I just had to say his advice is spot on. Its something I had to learn the hard way once on my own even with a following starting out after many years. Corrections can go many ways. One can be a breeze, the other a time consuming nightmare; how you balance it in the end counts.



A really great response Thomas.



John
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This was my 3rd. correction project. Did a black jeep, and an '04 Nissan Frontier. The jeep was my training project. Being new in business I did find myself promising to much. But thanks to all on this Forum, I'm finding my way thru the maze.



Would almost say, would be hard pressed do it without Autopia.
 
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