imported_DennisH
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Good information and thanks for taking the time to reply
Difference between #16 and #26?
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SilverLexus
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Sorry Mike but you did not answer the question with this related but somewhat tangential data referring to polishing. In fact, I can't seem to find where you really presented any real evidence either way about the question at hand which is given perfect prep, what does a carnauba or sealant do in terms of optical clarity. Surely you must have access to glossmeters, densitometers and other scientific gear which might shed some light on how sealants and waxes have different optical properties. I stand by my remarks that different waxes and sealants have different clarity.
Now one enthusiast can honestly prefer a "golden glow" from #26 like Bence mentions (I certainly have no problem with that and I enjoyed #26 until I learned more), but there is a difference between polishing the paint to bring out the natural beauty underneath and adding in a colored darkening like #26 does.
If folks here like #16 or #26 then fine use it to your content, but don't claim it doesn't impact the clarity of the paint when it in fact does.
Part of improving products is making one that balances a number of factors from durability to overall gloss to application ease to clarity.
Now one enthusiast can honestly prefer a "golden glow" from #26 like Bence mentions (I certainly have no problem with that and I enjoyed #26 until I learned more), but there is a difference between polishing the paint to bring out the natural beauty underneath and adding in a colored darkening like #26 does.
If folks here like #16 or #26 then fine use it to your content, but don't claim it doesn't impact the clarity of the paint when it in fact does.
Part of improving products is making one that balances a number of factors from durability to overall gloss to application ease to clarity.
SilverLexus said:
Wait, what? So you liked the look until you learned what?
Just like some people drive a completely stock car the way the manufacturer intended and others modify their car to make it better in their point of view.
BTW, I am curious as to your proof that one product is optically clear compared to others and why it matters so much.
SilverLexus
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That optical clarity creates more flake pop for one thing.
I have no problem with that but I am making a statement that using some products will darken paint more than others. I am amazed that this is disputed.
Spilchy
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SilverLexus said:
I agree with that. For one, when I used VM topped with CMW then finished with Souveran on my green Jetta, the paint literally looked darker.
I mean it was really noticeable with the CK products. Same applies with CK topped with Natty's Blue.
Sorry, no experience with #26 but plenty with #16. With #16 I don't notice a darkening like with the above mentioned regimen, but a more wetter (a.k.a. optically clear?
) look.Bigpoppa3346
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SilverLexus said:
I agree 100%. If you apply Collinite 845 on perfectly prepped black paint, and stop in the middle of a panel and buff off, it is very obvious as to where the product had been applied(even a non Autopian would notice).
I have never had this experience with say, EX-P or 2180 on black. I truely believe that there is a difference in clarity from product to product.
Wow, this thread has gone waaaayyy off topic(and I know I am no help to this).
SilverLexus
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We go off original topic a lot but I think this has been a good discussion.
SilverLexus said:
I know that too, but that doesn't prevent me from using products that will slightly darken the paint and make the flake somewhat less noticable.
I am not disputing that, I intentionally use products like Carnauba Moose, EX w/carnauba and Souveran specifically for that effect. I am merely point out that some people like to tweak the appearance of their paint by slightly darkening or deepening the appearance while others what to simply add shine and wetness to the appearance of their paint without changing the basic characteristics.
SilverLexus
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That's fine by me Scott-I'm not saying folks can't make a choice for darkened paint. I am only saying that darkening happens. I also use Souveran for dark colors but increasingly I use Z-5 Pro due to a very similar look and extra durability.
imported_Bence
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I like to fine tune paint appearances too. I examine the paint using a very white bright LED lamp, to observe the flake colors. Then I choose the LSP accordingly.
My car has golden flakes, so the #26 may amplify this color specifically.
My car has golden flakes, so the #26 may amplify this color specifically.
SilverLexus
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Well we agree on this; I found noticeable yellowing on my oyster pearl paint. It was a nice effect but it would fade after the first two weeks.
Todd@RUPES
Just a regular guy
Silver Lexus, I was wondering if your an employee of Zaino. The reason I ask is becasue I found two posts by you in which you refer as Zaino as we when replying to product testing and optical clearity.
SilverLexus
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LOL. Nope I'm not an employee of Zaino and I assume Scott is not employed by Jeff Werkstatt either. Not sure where or why I used a collective "We". It was just a figure of speech. I work for a software company in Atlanta and detailing is just a serious hobby for good exercise.
