DG 105 less slick than DG101?!

poweredbytorque

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I was under the impression from multiple posts on this forum that 105 would be a much better product than 101 in terms of being a lsp and I'm not impressed with 105. Doing a side by side test on my car, 101 looks far better and much slicker than 105. Am I the only one experiencing this?



The 105 is only slightly slick and it looks no different from a panel that has no lsp on it.
 
I dunno as to me DG105 is slicker than M21 in my opinion and touch. I don't have DG101 tho? So I can't compare. But I have M21. Hope it helps. What color is ur car? I've have applied on a Dark Blue and it came out quite good reflection and wet gloss. :)
 
I have a slightly metallic red car. I mean 105 does have a little slickness but whenever I touch 101, I shivers down my spine from how slick it is. It feels as if my entire hand has just dunked into a pool of slick even though only my palm is touching the paint...
 
Wow... I gotto to try the DG101 out. I do love the DG105 slickness. So much so tht I would love the DG101 is even slicker. Thks poweredbytorque. :) I'll get DG101 next.
 
I tend to agree. I've used DG101 and 108 (SUV polish). I topped them both with DG 105. I don't think it added much -- other than major dust attraction. "Major" in a way I have never experienced with any other products.
 
I've recently applied DG101 without topping it with 105, and I like the looks and the slickness of 101 way better. Next I'm gonna try DG111 over 101 to see what that looks like.
 
Cooter said:
I thought 101 was like an AIO not a LSP.



Its an LSP and AIO all in one :xyxthumbs



Its like a very weak AIO with great protection. It has fillers but little to no cleaning ability(at least I don't notice it cleaning anything). I view it more as a LSP.





Its still going strong at 3 months on my parent's car which is subjected to the high heat/humidity weather of FL. I put on a layer and took it off and topped it once with AW and thats it. I doubt that it has been waxed and I'm sure that it has been through some heavy thunderstorms.
 
Keep in mind that 101 is an abrasive AIO product, and therefore will be naturally slicker than 105, as the 101 is polishing the paint in addition to adding some light protection. 105 is mostly pure LSP... To me, 105 gives a noticably deeper, wetter look than 101. 101 gives a brighter, slightly more reflective look, IMO... I personally would never rely on 101 alone for sole protection. Its AIO qualities are a compromise to giving lasting, stronger protection/durability.



In addition, I don't consider slickness as an attribute that makes any product better than another, but merely a characteristic. While I may like slickness in a product, that doesn't mean it protects better, or lasts longer. In that regard, while 105 may be less slick (since no polishing action), I feel it offers FAR greater protection and durability to 101. And, that is what is important to me.
 
Abrasives can come in many forms. The 101, I believe, contains quite a bit of chemical abrasive to clean and polish the paint surface. It is amazing what 101 can clean from the paint, therefore it is my understanding that 101 contains a form of abrasive. I'm not referring to mechanical grit abrasive, if maybe that's what you took me as implying. I also consider Klasse AIO as an abrasive, as it functions pretty similarly to 101... To me, 101 is pretty strong stuff for an AIO product.



Regards,



Mike
 
I received an email from DG saying that 105 has the most cleaning agent in it. I will create a new tread so that it will get more attention.
 
Stryder said:
I received an email from DG saying that 105 has the most cleaning agent in it. I will create a new tread so that it will get more attention.





True, but I think 501 (from the marine line) is the one with the most cleaners in it...if I understood correctly.
 
TigerMike said:
Abrasives can come in many forms. The 101, I believe, contains quite a bit of chemical abrasive to clean and polish the paint surface. It is amazing what 101 can clean from the paint, therefore it is my understanding that 101 contains a form of abrasive. I'm not referring to mechanical grit abrasive, if maybe that's what you took me as implying. I also consider Klasse AIO as an abrasive, as it functions pretty similarly to 101... To me, 101 is pretty strong stuff for an AIO product.



Regards,



Mike



So, its abrasive, but not abrasive? Does 101 have any abrasive agents?



Klasse AIO has some degree of abrasive agents as well as chemical agents.
 
NSXTASY said:
So, its abrasive, but not abrasive? Does 101 have any abrasive agents?



Klasse AIO has some degree of abrasive agents as well as chemical agents.



Huh? I think I stated that 101 has abrasives. Abrasives can be mechanical or chemical, and yes 101 has abrasives (mostly chemical), similar to KAIO. 101 is labeled by DG as a "Polish and Cleaner" and that cleaning is coming from a form of abrasives. I'm not talking about silica grit that is found in many swirl removers, but there are many levels and types of abrasives. To me, to say that any AIO product is nonabrasive is misleading...
 
TigerMike said:
Huh? I think I stated that 101 has abrasives. Abrasives can be mechanical or chemical, and yes 101 has abrasives (mostly chemical), similar to KAIO. 101 is labeled by DG as a "Polish and Cleaner" and that cleaning is coming from a form of abrasives. I'm not talking about silica grit that is found in many swirl removers, but there are many levels and types of abrasives. To me, to say that any AIO product is nonabrasive is misleading...



Is it really accurate to say that saomething that has chemical cleaning properties is an abrasive?



IMO, the term abrasives means that it scratches (I know sounds ugly) and that's not how the chemicals in DG products work as far as I know
 
Abrasives can be mechanical (grit) or chemical. Some polishes, such as Hi-Temp polishes, are labeled as chemical abrasives, and do their polishing work chemically...



I know this is an extreme example, but would you pour acid on your paint finish? If not, why? Because it can and will chemically abrade your paint.



To me, any product (other than pure LSP) that can clean and/or polish paint, will have some form of abrasive, whether mechanical or chemical.
 
TigerMike said:
Abrasives can be mechanical (grit) or chemical. Some polishes, such as Hi-Temp polishes, are labeled as chemical abrasives, and do their polishing work chemically...



I know this is an extreme example, but would you pour acid on your paint finish? If not, why? Because it can and will chemically abrade your paint.



To me, any product (other than pure LSP) that can clean and/or polish paint, will have some form of abrasive, whether mechanical or chemical.





G:2thumbs: otcha
 
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