DG 105 + AquaWax Question

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CleanGSR

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This combo is the perfect combo of looks and durability for customer's and family member's cars (in my opinion). However, in these situations, I don't have the luxury of waiting 12 hours to let the 105 cure before applying AW. So....will adding a layer of Aquawax within about 30 minutes of wiping off 105 degrade the layer of 105 much? Anybody ever do testing to see if this compromises the durability or looks over waiting the 12 hours to apply AW?
 
I have done both and if I had to choose between:



Applying AW before 105 cures

not applying AW at all and only 105



I would choose #2 and not apply the AW... when I have applied the AW prior to 105 fully curing it just took something away when compared to the look of the 105 fully cured.
 
Well, that's not what I was hoping to hear. I was not impressed at all with the looks of 105 by itself. I suppose I'd rather stay with using Meguiars 21 rather than only DG105 w/o AW.
 
CleanGSR said:
Well, that's not what I was hoping to hear. I was not impressed at all with the looks of 105 by itself. I suppose I'd rather stay with using Meguiars 21 rather than only DG105 w/o AW.
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I was a little disappointed with the 105 myself. Just felt like it was kind of sterile, and lacking something.
 
Anybody else that has input on Aquawax being applied directly after wiping off 105...please chime in. I won't apply DG105 on anybody's car without AW since it just doesn't give the look that I require though I don't have a car to test it on since I perfer a different method on my car (durability is no factor for my car). Plus my wife's car is white, so seeing a difference with looks isn't as easy/noticable as on a darker car.
 
CleanGSR said:
Anybody else that has input on Aquawax being applied directly after wiping off 105...please chime in. I won't apply DG105 on anybody's car without AW since it just doesn't give the look that I require though I don't have a car to test it on since I perfer a different method on my car (durability is no factor for my car). Plus my wife's car is white, so seeing a difference with looks isn't as easy/noticable as on a darker car.
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If you like the look you are getting applying the AW before the 105 cures what's the issue... opinions on this will be subjective at best...
 
It could be just me, but DG105 looks better a day after it is applied to my car. Same with Aquawax, it looks better after a few hours after. Could it be the curing time affecting the results or my mind playing tricks on me?



Sorry, i haven't tried topping 105 with AW immediately after applying the 105 though.
 
Both 105 and Aquawax both seem to look better the next day for me as well. Sorry I have not tried applying AW immediately after applying 105 to the OP.
 
What about applying 111 after 105? Are we still supposed to wait for the 105 to cure? I wasn't super impressed with 105 so I was thinking of trying 111 on top of it.
 
Most Sealants require this "cure" time. If you don't need much cleaning ability, just use 111, and skip 105 altogether.
 
MotorCity said:
If you like the look you are getting applying the AW before the 105 cures what's the issue... opinions on this will be subjective at best...
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I don't know what it looks like applied directly after....never tried it that way and don't want a customer's car to be the "test dummy". Plus, as I said, I use a different "wetter" combo on my car so no way to really test. I'm concerned with two things here.....



1. Looks. Looks may not be as good as DG105 that's cured 12hrs, but is it improved over not using AW at all?



2. (and probably more important)....Durability. Is the durability going to be reduced by adding the AW so fast after 105 is removed? My fear is that since the 105 isn't cured that the AW will remove some or all of the 105 layer. I get 5-6 months out of DG105 and would hate for that to be cut to 1 month by removing the 105 when I apply the AW. That's my biggest fear with trying it on a customer's car. I'd hate to find out that after 1 month they are no longer getting any protection.
 
kkjv1 said:
It could be just me, but DG105 looks better a day after it is applied to my car. Same with Aquawax, it looks better after a few hours after. Could it be the curing time affecting the results or my mind playing tricks on me?



Sorry, i haven't tried topping 105 with AW immediately after applying the 105 though.
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I agree that 105 looks better the next day, but even still, it doesn't touch M21 on darker colors (in my opinion). However, DG105 + 12hrs cure + Aquawax blows away M21 in both looks and durability (in my opinion).
 
I usually apply 105, wait up to 30 minutes, spray AW and buff of together. I dont have any concrete results, but it looks fine...
 
I chose 105 because of durability. The looks is fine for me with 105 standalone. Topping up with AW has a even better look. In my opinion with AW, it blown away everything.
 
purplenurple said:
I usually apply 105, wait up to 30 minutes, spray AW and buff of together. I dont have any concrete results, but it looks fine...
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So you spray AW onto the surface with 105 still on there, then buff both off at once? Sounds similar to Scottwax's method with Poliseal and OCW. How's the durability been doing it this way? Durability is my biggest concern here as I don't want it to drop off significantly vs. the "correct" way. I'd love to hear your experiences regarding durability.
 
CleanGSR said:
So you spray AW onto the surface with 105 still on there, then buff both off at once? Sounds similar to Scottwax's method with Poliseal and OCW. How's the durability been doing it this way? Durability is my biggest concern here as I don't want it to drop off significantly vs. the "correct" way. I'd love to hear your experiences regarding durability.
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Well...it seems to be holding up well on my windows from around December 20th with this method with nothing more than ONR QD/UQD applied to the windows since them. I dont really use my wipers, even in todays heavy rain, since the water just flies off.
 
I've done it that way on customers cars , it will cure on its own just fine. Everyone feel like you can't even breath on something until 12 hrs. NOT true at all from my experiences. I had to try things that way because I can't keep stuff sitting around that long. Now I do it all the time on my personal vehicle . I'll do a 111 and after I wipe it off I spritz/ wipe off with AW and never had durability issues at all.



As far as 105 has great cleaning ability , their most aggressive , but try using 101 , medium clean with a sealant, followed by 111.



111 is a kick arse sealant IMO. Top that with AW = smokin shine !!!



Although I have tried and have a lot of the FOTM products I feel DG is one of the best products I've used for both shine , depth & durability. I have this on my 06 Metallic gray 4Runner and never got so many compliments on my vehicles shine.
 
Fallguy said:
I've done it that way on customers cars , it will cure on its own just fine. Everyone feel like you can't even breath on something until 12 hrs. NOT true at all from my experiences. I had to try things that way because I can't keep stuff sitting around that long. Now I do it all the time on my personal vehicle . I'll do a 111 and after I wipe it off I spritz/ wipe off with AW and never had durability issues at all.



As far as 105 has great cleaning ability , their most aggressive , but try using 101 , medium clean with a sealant, followed by 111.



111 is a kick arse sealant IMO. Top that with AW = smokin shine !!!



Although I have tried and have a lot of the FOTM products I feel DG is one of the best products I've used for both shine , depth & durability. I have this on my 06 Metallic gray 4Runner and never got so many compliments on my vehicles shine.
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Thanks. This is the experiences I was hoping to hear about. Now regarding 101 vs. 105...cleaning matters none to me since I will be using it only for the sealant ability. Regarding 105 vs. 111......how do they compare in looks and durability. I get a solid 5-6 months out of 105 which is one of the reasons it's my go-to product for customers. Do you get the same durability from 111? What about looks.......sounds like people say that 111 has more gloss than 105.



Makes me wonder what all the hype about 105 is if you can get the same durability from 111 with better looks (assuming that's correct).
 
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