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zannard

If I only had more time.
Read number "7".

http://www.detailingdynamics.com/tipaug04.html

I agree with almost all of it, but some of #7 gives me a good chuckle. The line that got my attention was "Ironically the top detailers in the country who I've had the chance to get to know over the years never contribute to these chatrooms."

Well, maybe they should get on here and post a little. They could either learn something, or contribute.

just my 2 cents. I'm sure Detailing Dynamics is a great business.
 
That site was discussed a few months back on Autopia (I think, may have been here). Bottom line is that doing paid details, and thus being "professional," does not make you any more credible or knowledgeable than any of the hobbyists on these forums. In fact, I dare say quite a few of the hobbyists on these forums do far superior work than many of the so called professionals found in phone books.
 
TW85 said:
That site was discussed a few months back on Autopia (I think, may have been here). Bottom line is that doing paid details, and thus being "professional," does not make you any more credible or knowledgeable than any of the hobbyists on these forums. In fact, I dare say quite a few of the hobbyists on these forums do far superior work than many of the so called professionals found in phone books.
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I don't know about that, many pro's spend thousands on specialty classes and years of practice and deserve a level of respect for that. There are many things besides removing swirls and throwing on sealant that pros do: Scratch repair, window repair, dent removal, etc. It's kinda like a college basketball player saying they're better than the players in the NBA. There's a difference from learning in a forum and doing it everyday, but this place is a good learning tool.
 
There are some college players that are probably better than the pros...lol.

But just cause you spend lots of money on training doesn't make you great. I think it just takes lots of practice and listening in anything you do.

hey, i'm just a novice......i'll just keep learning.
 
zannard said:
There are some college players that are probably better than the pros...lol.

But just cause you spend lots of money on training doesn't make you great. I think it just takes lots of practice and listening in anything you do.
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Passion + Patience too ;)
 
zannard said:
But just cause you spend lots of money on training doesn't make you great. QUOTE]
Who said great? Detailing isn't my profession but I work with two pros that amaze me with their detailing. I am a paint and body guy and these guys revive stuff I think is dead. They also save their customers from coming to me and having me take two of their mortgage payments. I am just saying proffesion detailers deserve respect. Talk is cheap in an internet forum, these people feed themselves by their craft and bagging on them is a joke.
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His mistake was making a blanket statement about ALL the people in ALL the detailing chatrooms (at least that's what it sounded like). While I'm sure there are a few hacks in every group, by far the magority are people who are truely fanatical about their personal cars, followed by experienced enthusiasts that may do a car here and there for some side money and finally the people who detail for a living.

There are three groups that I visit regularly. Here, MOL and Autopia. I've noticed that the hacks are quickly discoved and either shut up, shown the error of their ways or banned, leaving the rest of us to exchange information and ideas. Yes, there is still misinformation aplenty, BUT THAT'S WHAT THESE BOARDS ARE INTENDED FOR... to dispell (sp) the bad info, replacing it with good, solid detailing methods.

I have yet to see someone intentionally give bad advice (use 600 grit to take bugs off your bumper). If a suggestion seems a bit risky or unusual, others on the board will question it, and it gets discussed. Some may try the suggested idea and report back on it's merits (or lack of).

Personally, I have learned more on this and the other two boards in the last couple of years than I did in 10+ years of going at it on my own. There is no one I know in my area that is as "into" detailing as I am, so it's like being on a deserted island. These forums have (finally) allowed me to mingle with my 'own kind.' That in itself is a magor positive in the boards' favor.
 
heh, that ahole doesnt know what he is talking about. this this ahole reminds me of another ahole who wrote a detailing article. in this ahole's article, he said to apply wax as swirls all over you r car, lolololol...wrongggggggggg.

heh, im not a professional detailer but ive seen hobbyist who can detail and have better products than the guys who detail new cars at the dealership. i like the work of cleandean and nick0844. now i dont know if they are professional detailers or hobbyst, but i consider them both cuz i dont know them.

#7 on the article is wrong.
 
If you make your living doing something (i.e. get paid for performing a service) that would make you a professional in my book. However, that doesn't make you competent or mean that you perform the service better than anyone else can. Fancy certificates, training courses, etc. are only one part of the spectrum and they don't necessarily mean that person A's work will be better that enthusiast B's work. I have seen many professional detail jobs that look like Joe Schmoe off the corner did it. Many of the enthusiast's work I have seen here and "other" sites are a lot more "professional" looking. Not every professional is a hack, but then again not every professional is a "professional" either. Just my $0.02.
 
buttashine,

Some of the greatest skill, regardless of the topic, comes from those that are self taught instead of from those that read a few books or received training.

Besides, I was not making a blanket statement but one that indeed has truth to it. I am not a pro detailer but it is easy to recognize that all it takes to be considered or to call yourself one is to do details for income. Often times it is the "unheard of" that do the highest quality work.
 
tsx2004 said:
heh, that ahole doesnt know what he is talking about.
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#7 on the article is wrong.
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On the contrary - I think that's a valid point - not just with advice here on detailing but advice anywhere on the internet. Don't just accept what you read from the first poster as the gospel. Investigate a little - then see what you think.

Now granted - the next time I run into a detailing problem, if any of several members on this board offer me advice, I'll accept that. But I certainly wouldn't accept it from someone I don't know.
 
The guy sounds a little bitter to me. I mean, I can be as coarse as anyone, sometimes on purpose, and sometimes by accident. It almost sounds like he's purposely taunting people on that site. Or, he's a bitter SOB. Either way, I don't care. I've learned most of my stuff from this site, asking questions, and trying things out. Yes, I take money for details. Am I a pro. Why, absolutely! I have insurance, biz cards, equipment, etc. What credentials do I have? My good name, and its only good because of the quality of my work. So buttashine, I hear you man, but they just don't want to pay "amateur, or semi-professionals". I'll back up my work anytime just as most will who take money for detailing. If they don't like my work, I will fix it. Its that simple. I don't see too many people on this site that are getting dinged for bad work. And best of all, it doesn't take 2 of their mortgage payments to make it look like new.
 
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