Delution rates for Chemical Guys Citruswashclear

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jlineman

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The Chemical Guys web site tells us that the dilution rate for their CitrusWashclear is " one cap full for 4 to 5 gallons of water for a superior wash" One cap full by the way measures 1/4 oz HOWEVER the instructions on the bottle say 1/2 oz for 2 gallons which would equal 1 full oz for 4 gallons of water. I don't understand why the difference and I sure don't want to strip any wax or sealant because I used to much! I sent an e-mail to Chemical Guys asking for an explaination but as of yet not received an answer. Their claim for the Cutruswashclear is that it will not strip wax or sealants. Has anyone used this stuff and what delution rate are you using so as not to strip wax or sealant.
 
Yeah, they have serious problems with their dilutions. They really need to go back and edit a lot of stuff in their product pages. In other countries, chem guys website have different dilutions than the one you posted, so even more contradictory information. Not a good system imo, but luckily their products work well.

I would use the 1 oz per 4 gallons personallly
 
OK...1 oz to 4-5 gallons it is. At that rate have you found that it will not strip any wax or sealant as advertised?
 
What you quoted is exactly what the label on my bottle says....which is not what the web site says. They should hire someone to proof read the information they put out! I would be surprised if there are conflicts like this with other brands? I don't want to beat the horse to death but we should be able to rely on the web site info to match the instructions on the bottle and not have to ask on the forum how to use something as simple as a shampoo. BUT...it is what it is and we now know we can't rely on their instructions to be consistent between their web site and the label on the product.
 
My little devious mind was doing the math between 1 capfull (1/4 oz) and 1oz per 4-5 gallons of water. If a bucket holds 5 gallons and you use 1/4 oz per bucket, then you are going to get 64 buckets of wash out of a 16 oz bottle. At 1oz per bucket only 16 buckets of wash. IF ?...If ?...there are differences in dilution rates between the web site instructions and what is in fact on the label and it is occurring with several of their products, I question if this might be deliberate false advertising on Chemical Guys part in order to sell their products. If I can get 64 wash out of a 16 oz bottle as opposed to 16 and all things being equal, then I am going to look pretty hard at the product I can get the most wash out of! Surely, you don't suppose this is deliberate?
 
jlineman said:
My little devious mind was doing the math between 1 capfull (1/4 oz) and 1oz per 4-5 gallons of water. If a bucket holds 5 gallons and you use 1/4 oz per bucket, then you are going to get 64 buckets of wash out of a 16 oz bottle. At 1oz per bucket only 16 buckets of wash. IF ?...If ?...there are differences in dilution rates between the web site instructions and what is in fact on the label and it is occurring with several of their products, I question if this might be deliberate false advertising on Chemical Guys part in order to sell their products. If I can get 64 wash out of a 16 oz bottle as opposed to 16 and all things being equal, then I am going to look pretty hard at the product I can get the most wash out of! Surely, you don't suppose this is deliberate?
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I can't say if that's true or not, but I don't like CG's practices. They have different directions on their products based on web, label, and country. And all the directions are about the same product.

Also, they delete any negative reviews of a product on their website. I think that's just wrong.

Like I said, bad practices, but fortunately good products.
 
jlineman said:
My little devious mind was doing the math between 1 capfull (1/4 oz) and 1oz per 4-5 gallons of water. If a bucket holds 5 gallons and you use 1/4 oz per bucket, then you are going to get 64 buckets of wash out of a 16 oz bottle. At 1oz per bucket only 16 buckets of wash. IF ?...If ?...there are differences in dilution rates between the web site instructions and what is in fact on the label and it is occurring with several of their products, I question if this might be deliberate false advertising on Chemical Guys part in order to sell their products. If I can get 64 wash out of a 16 oz bottle as opposed to 16 and all things being equal, then I am going to look pretty hard at the product I can get the most wash out of! Surely, you don't suppose this is deliberate?
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Our website to use 1 oz per 5 gallons of Citrus Wash and Gloss

Their website states to use 1 oz per 5 gallons of Citrus Wash and Gloss

Both clearly state that the bottle has 16 ounces of product.

We will look into any inconsistency.

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Todd Helme said:
Our website to use 1 oz per 5 gallons of Citrus Wash and Gloss

Their website states to use 1 oz per 5 gallons of Citrus Wash and Gloss

Both clearly state that the bottle has 16 ounces of product.

We will look into any inconsistency.
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The label only clearly states 1 capful to 5 gal, not 1 oz to 5 gal.

The Citrus Wash and Gloss product website on ChemicalGuys.com states 1:4000 dilution ratio in the bullet points (3rd section) (1oz to 5 gal is 1:640) and 1oz to 5 gal in later instructions.
Car Wash Shampoo is a gentle-cleansing liquid gel car wash Car Wash Shampoo

So among all these ratios, which one is correct?
CG UK said that for all their products, you should use the dilution ratio printed on the label on bottle.

Then how much is 1 capful? I did a small experiment at home:
This is my bottle of CWG:
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I poured more than 1 capful out bcos it is so thick there will be some trapped in the cap:
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All poured into a medical measuring cap. It is 10ml.
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So I believe a suitable ratio should be 1:1890 as stated on my Shampoo Dilution Ratios Table found here:
Shampoo Dilution Ratios Table - Auto Geek Online Auto Detailing Forum
With that being said, it is all up to the user to use up to 1:640, or as low as 1:4000.
The way I interpret this is that 1:4000 is the lowest threshold for safe washing, while 1:640 is good for max gloss while still safe for LSP.

No one is cheating here, but CG definitely need to improve their web site.
Citrus Wash and Gloss is one of the best shampoo in the world.
 
PPLd said:
The way I interpret this is that 1:4000 is the lowest threshold for safe washing, while 1:640 is good for max gloss while still safe for LSP.

No one is cheating here, but CG definitely need to improve their web site.
Citrus Wash and Gloss is one of the best shampoo in the world.
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I am sure you can use any soap at 1:4000 but it just may not do much. I had measured my 16 oz caps and it was close to 8 ml. I have the Citrus Wash and Gloss. The gallon caps are probably larger but I do not have any CG gallons.
 
PPLd said:
The label only clearly states 1 capful to 5 gal, not 1 oz to 5 gal.

The Citrus Wash and Gloss product website on ChemicalGuys.com states 1:4000 dilution ratio in the bullet points (3rd section) (1oz to 5 gal is 1:640) and 1oz to 5 gal in later instructions.
Car Wash Shampoo is a gentle-cleansing liquid gel car wash Car Wash Shampoo

So among all these ratios, which one is correct?
CG UK said that for all their products, you should use the dilution ratio printed on the label on bottle.

Then how much is 1 capful? I did a small experiment at home:
This is my bottle of CWG:
DSC_1213.jpg


I poured more than 1 capful out bcos it is so thick there will be some trapped in the cap:
DSC_1214.jpg


All poured into a medical measuring cap. It is 10ml.
DSC_1217.jpg


So I believe a suitable ratio should be 1:1890 as stated on my Shampoo Dilution Ratios Table found here:
Shampoo Dilution Ratios Table - Auto Geek Online Auto Detailing Forum
With that being said, it is all up to the user to use up to 1:640, or as low as 1:4000.
The way I interpret this is that 1:4000 is the lowest threshold for safe washing, while 1:640 is good for max gloss while still safe for LSP.

No one is cheating here, but CG definitely need to improve their web site.
Citrus Wash and Gloss is one of the best shampoo in the world.
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Great chart and thank you for the clarification. I edited my post to reflect your information.
 
Suppliers need to be consistent with label and online instructions.

When I made my first purchase of WGDGPS, the label didn't mention anything about waiting 30-45 minutes before removing nor did it mention avoiding rain or water for 12 hours.

My first application was a waste of time. But now I'm smarter for it. I always verify and get the correct information.
 
Todd Helme said:
Our website to use 1 oz per 5 gallons of Citrus Wash and Gloss

Their website states to use 1 oz per 5 gallons of Citrus Wash and Gloss

Both clearly state that the bottle has 16 ounces of product.

We will look into any inconsistency.

Edited per new info
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Todd...you are correct on your dilution rate for CG Citrus Wash and Gloss...HOWEVER...the subject and question has been the dilution rate for CG CitruswashClear. It's listed underneath the bottle on the web site as "CWC-302-Clear-16-Citrus Daily Wash with Extreme Suds" Two different products from CG and Autopia carries both. Some other posters have gotten confused as well. Your site as well as CG site clearly and repeatedly states 1 capfull, which measures approximately 1/4 oz, per 4-5 gallons when in fact the label on the bottle states 1/2 oz per 2 gallons which would be 1 oz per 4 gallons.
I stand by my original statement that CG is misrepresenting their product!
And... while we are on the subject...there is the same discrepancy between the web site ( both on Autopia and CG sites) and the label on the container concerning the Citruswash and gloss!
You might want to look again at what CG is doing.
 
Bunky said:
I am sure you can use any soap at 1:4000 but it just may not do much. I had measured my 16 oz caps and it was close to 8 ml. I have the Citrus Wash and Gloss. The gallon caps are probably larger but I do not have any CG gallons.
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Hi Ai,

Thank you for your comment. I double checked the cap size with water for easier measurement and it is 7.5ml for a cap, same as the cap used by Blackfire shampoo.

:inspector:
 
PPLd said:
Hi Ai,

Thank you for your comment. I double checked the cap size with water for easier measurement and it is 7.5ml for a cap, same as the cap used by Blackfire shampoo.

:inspector:
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So just about a quarter of an ounce - so I guess it's supposed to be one cap per gallon, which would be equivalent to one ounce for four gallons.
 
I would tend to believe directions on a label versus what is on a web site and suggest Todd contact Chemical Guys to get some clarity on dilutions given the contradictions between labeling. CG web site, and CG videos (some by Greg Masterson). The superlatives in their write ups is expected given the demographics they seem to market.

My guess is they do not really think it is that important for consistency.
 
Bunky said:
I would tend to believe directions on a label versus what is on a web site and suggest Todd contact Chemical Guys to get some clarity on dilutions given the contradictions between labeling. CG web site, and CG videos (some by Greg Masterson). The superlatives in their write ups is expected given the demographics they seem to market.

My guess is they do not really think it is that important for consistency.
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It's not only being consistent with their directions but the difference in dilution rates can affect whither you are going to strip the wax off your car when you think you are only giving it a maintenance wash. BIG difference.
 
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