Deionized Water????

Debelli

Debelli

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:newbie New to this site AND new to detailing a car. None of the cars I've had over the past XX years;) have ever been more than washed (and lucky when they got it I may ad) - I've vowed to change after purchasing a new DARK BLUE Santa Fe 2 1/2 weeks ago.

One thing that bothers me is WATER SPOTS! I live in SOFLA so water appears to evaporate on contact - esp. during the hotter months! I've been on the web looking for solutions and found a product that attaches to your hose that claims it deionizes the water, and claims to virtually elimate spots.

Has anyone use deionized water with these results? Has anyone ever heard of this filter that attaches to you hose and if so, does it work as it says?

I contacted, who I believe to be the owner of the company for more info - and possibly better pricing if others on the website may be interested (and it's okayed by the moderator). Can't help it, I'm a true shopper and hate paying regular price!!!

Please note, I have no personal interest in this company or product other than obtaining more information about it and seeing if it does indeed work. I just don't want to throw away my money - gosh knows after paying for this car, there's not much of any money left for frivilous items.

So, if anyone can throw in their 2 cents worth of advice, experience or information about a product such as this, I'm ready to read!!

THANKS!!!!:D
 
Deb-

One more thing you might want to look into would be an EZUP canopy to wash/detail your car under. Automatic shade from the hot FL sun. Just a thought. :) Sorry to take it off-topic.
 
I know what you mean . When I lived in West Palm the water spots were killing me . I had just bought a new Axiom and everytime it rained or the sprinklers were on it dried to white waterspots almost immediately. I do like the idea of JaredPointer to invest in an EZ-UP canopy . You can put it up by yourself and will give YOU shade as well.

You could try switching to a polymer wax that'll give you sheeting action instead of the water beading and then drying. I tried that with the Axiom and got decent results . Good Luck and Aloha

Jon
 
BILL, I don't see where it says it deionizes the water - and it appears to be a bit bulky. I do have a link, but really don't want to post it, I don't know how it's taken on this website when you post about a product. I know that it's a very touchy subject on a large website I moderated a portion of. You could probably figure it out though ;) BUT, here is some of the information on the site:

FOR SPOT FREE WASHING OF CARS, TRUCKS, BOATS, RV's, PLANES AND MOTORCYCLES!



The XXX portable water softener is designed to soften and deionize your water to remove calcium, magnesium iron, limestone and total dissolved solids (TDS) in your water. The XXX is easily hooked up with water hose fittings (supplied), between two sections of garden hose.

FEATURES:

-NO TOWEL DRYING!

-NO SPOTS!

-NO STREAKS!

-NO CARTRIDGES TO REPLACE!

-NO CHEMICALS TO BUY!

-CAN BE REGENERATED WITH TABLE SALT HUNDREDS OF TIMES!

-MADE OF ALL NON CORROSIVE MATERIALS.

-NO MOVING PARTS TO WEAR OUT.

-SAVES TIME AND LABOR!

-GUARANTEED!

BENEFITS:

-SPARKLING, SPOT FREE RESULTS ON ALL VEHICLES!

-EASY TO REGENERATE IN LESS THAN 2 MINUTES WITH PLAIN TABLE SALT!

-10 TIMES MORE WATER FLOW THAN MR. CLEAN AUTO DRY CAR WASH SYSTEM FOR FASTER, EASIER, AND MORE THOROUGH RINSING

HOW IT WORKS (let's keep it simple)

WATER SOFTENERS CONTAIN RESIN BEADS THAT ATTRACT MINERALS IN YOUR WATER. AS THE MINERALS PASS OVER THE RESIN BEADS THEY STICK TO THE SURFACE OF THE BEADS WHICH TRAPS THEM IN THE "XXX". AFTER THE RESIN BEADS COLLECT ALL THE MINERALS THEY CAN HOLD, THE "XXX" NEEDS TO BE REGENERATED TO FLUSH OUT THE MINERALS. WATER AND SALT FLUSHED THRU THE "XXX" RELEASES THE MINERALS AND CARRIES THEM OUT OF THE "XXX". THE "XXX" IS NOW REGENERATED AND READY FOR USE. THE "XXX" ALSO HAS AN ADDITIONAL RESIN CHAMBER THAT REMOVES "TDS" (TOTAL DISSOLVED SOLIDS) THAT WATER SOFTENING ALONE CAN NOT REMOVE. THIS IS THE MAJOR FACTOR IN PREVENTING SPOTTING.

SPECIFICATIONS:

-MAKES UP TO 60 GAL SOFT DEIONIZED WATER (VARIES WITH WATER HARDNESS)

-CAN BE REGENERATED HUNDREDS OF TIMES FOR MANY YEARS

-4.5 GPM CONTINUOUS FLOW WITH NORMAL WATER PRESSURE OF 60 LBS.

-MAX WATER PRESSURE NOT TO EXCEED 100 PSI (COLD WATER ONLY)

-3" DIAMETER x 33" LENGTH

REGENERATION:

1. Mix 4 oz. plain table salt with 16 oz. of water in a plastic bottle (16 oz. soft drink or Mineral Water bottles work great).
2. Drain any water remaining in your XXX.
3. Place a cap on one end of the XXX and then pour 1/2 of salt solution into the other end, then install the other end cap.
4. Flip the XXX to the other end, remove the cap and pour the balance of the salt solution into the XXX.
5. Install the end cap and shake for 10 seconds, then store the XXX at least 2 hours or until the next use.
6. Flush with water for 15 seconds to remove the salt solution before re using.

I have found some personal people who've given it a very short review that says it works as it claims. As far as the regeneration of it, that I guess would take time to see if it works like it should.

I contacted the seller and told him I'm interested in this item, that I'm a :newbie on a large detailing website (sorry, I didn't plug DC, not yet at least) and thought, if it was okay with the owners of this site, that maybe he could give a better price to members if there were enough of us interested in getting it. Gladly, I'd be a guinea pig for this product - I think either way, I'm going to invest in it, but it sure would be nice to get it a little cheaper than his website has it:yes I could buy it and report it's findings - I LOVE doing reviews!!!:D

So, with the above info - any thoughts from you (others, chime in please!!!!)

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JARED, thanks for that tip! You know, I have one of the older type models, with the poles you need to put together. Never used it, no idea how big it is even - it's still in the box, in the shed, since the day I bought it at a garage sale for $4.00. BUT, I have actually seen these newer ones at garage sales - now I'll start looking for them again - if it folds down easily and the Santy will fit under it, I'd get it if it was the right price. THANKS AGAIN!!!:D

HAWAII, from WPB to Hawaii - are the water spots any better over there?
 
I think the adminstration would have no problem posting the link. ( I posted mine as you can see ) I can also tell you "on that other site, where I'm from", we wouldn't have a problem with you posting the link and discussing the product either just as long as you are not a vendor or have some type of commercial interest in the product.

I've read the product I linked to does a great job eliminating water spots. You need to get the rechargable filter. The feedback about it is so positive it spraked my interest.

How much is the product you described?
 
Nope, no commercial interest at all - the only interest I have is IF IT REALLY GETS RID OF SPOTS!!!!

I've seen others that you have to recharge the filter - which ends up being costly in the long run - this appears to be something you yourself can recharge - so nothing more to buy.

They charge $59.99 + S&H on the website - I asked what type of discount he could give to the masses - he's trying for $49.99 +S&H

What do you think????
 
I would question the cheapness of this system . Unless you know someone in your area that has one and you know what the results were from using it I would pass . DI water isn't that cheap to buy in bulk , its much cheaper to buy then produce residentially . Do the math per gallon .
 
rollman said:
I would question the cheapness of this system . Unless you know someone in your area that has one and you know what the results were from using it I would pass .
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That's my opinion too. Then again I don't like to be the gineau pig for new things... :cool
 
The price for this system is in the same range as the one I linked. In fact, it sounds extremely similar. I would be interested as I wash via foam so buying distilled or deionized water in containers isn't an option for me.
 
Bill D,
You can purchase a filter system like the one in your link at Home Depot or Lowes(approx $15).We have one on our pressure washing trailer between the feed line hose reel and water tank.Ours has a sand filter in it,we also have a mesh screen filter in line to remove the larger sized trash.
If you link several of this type filter together with the right combination of filters you can achieve water with a purity around 99%.I have a buddy that washes windows in Atl who uses a similar system with a water fed pole to get spot free windows.
 
Hi Squirtgun. :welcome

Welcome to Detail City and thank you for the info :bigups. Just when I thought I had everything covered to look at in Home Depot :D
 
ROLLMAN, know no one. Did ask someone who bought one from this guy if he'd let me know what he thought about it since he's actually gotten it and (hopefully) used it by now. This one website had an article about this, how I came to learn about deionized water in the first place (never heard about it before) and they say this is the cheapest way for car lots to keep their vehicles clean waiting for a new owner. In part it says:

The difficult part of this is delivering a spot free rinse. There are essentially three ways to accomplish this. The first, the most labor intensive and also the oldest method is to dry the surface of each vehicle using a chamois or soft cotton towel. The second is to buy a Reverse Osmosis unit [ R. O. unit ] and purify the water at your shop to be carried with you to each job. This is not only expensive and labor intensive but it is also highly impractical. The third and most commonly accepted is to rent DI units [ de-ionizer units ] which will give you water in its purest form. Depending on the number of cars you do and the quality of the water that you run through the DI tanks you should be able to use DI tanks for about one month before it becomes necessary to re-generate the DI tanks. The average cost for DI water is about 5 cents per car.

WIFEHATESCAR - I surely don't mind being a guinea pig for this site on this item - I've done so for other items for a board I co-moderated and never had a problem, but then again, it was food :D

BILL, let me know if you hit HD and find what SQUIRT mentioned. If this guy comes through, do you want me to send you the information via P/M?

SQUIRT, is what you are talking about able to be hooked up to the garden hose? You mention "linking several of these filters together" how much are you talking about and what will this contraption end up looking like?
 
Yes this system hooks up to a garden hose.The actual plan calls for 4-4" x 20" filters(2-carbon fiber,2-spun fiber)but the 2.5" x 10" 3 filter set up will work(2-carbon,1-spun).This system can be built for less than $100 and maintained for about $30 every few months for new filters.
As for looks picture 3 or 4 filters linked in a line with a short connecting pipe inbetween and hose hook ups on each end.

"SQUIRT"=6' 275lb man with tattoos....why did I stick myself with that name........LOL.

P.S.I'm trying to locate the pics of this system so I can post them.
 
DI water works great, does dry spotless and one hell of a time saver, I just happen to take some pics of glass I cleaned with DI water in a spray bottle and MF towels on the interior glass and just a quik wipe down with Absorber on the exterior glass. Almost looks invisble. Also gives the paint a shine I have never seen using other types of water. Look in your local phone book under water purification and call them if they rent DI Tanks. I have a two tank sytem that run about $50 a month and they last about three months depending on how many cars you wash, I wash a bunch. Just hook up your garden hose to one end and throw the outlet hose into your tank and just fill it up. Have a great evening, Martin. www.SAmobilecarwash.com
 
I install deionized water equipment before (actually several times), and I doubt very much that it is making DI water. It is probably making softwater, with a filter to get more of the mineral out. DI water I doubt. Usually with DI water you get into some fairly expensive filters, that need to be replaced. Look at the home RO systems.

If you can please post a link, I'm a plumber and would love to see the info. I have taken some of the other devices that have been post on this forum to one of my water conditioning people to see what they are. Almost all of them have been miniture softners, at least that was what they thought.

I'm not saying it is not DI, but if it is DI I can't believe it is a very good quality.

Please post a link.
 
SQUIRT, would still love to see your contraption, but too pricey for my pocketbook. Hey, they could of called you TINY!:lol

SA, can't believe that glass - awesome! WOW!!!! Can't invest in anything so pricey - love the new wheels, but keeping it up has to stay down to earth for me.

OI812 - I think it's just a DI /RO filter that they put some couplings (is that the word I'm looking for?) and then hook a hose from end to end. Here's a pictures of the one I mentioned above. I don't like to give out websites unless I know for sure it's a good product. P/M me and I'll e-mail you the sites I found.

I need to get a life! I spent hours on the computer looking around, did find one other filter similar to the one pictured, just a different company. Called them as their info is not as detailed as the one pictured above - waiting for more info from them - stay tuned!

Debbie
 
Debbie,

Just so you know, even if there is a massive uproar and we all wind up absolutely despising the products you discuss, ;) there's no need to feel you can't share links.
 
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