Deep, wet look on dark blue metallic?

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I'm going to try AIO/NXT first and see if I like the combination. I'm not too worried about durability, as it is my personal car and will be getting plenty of attention. What would be a good sealant to use that will result in a crystal clear, wet, reflective finish?



I was thinking something along the lines of 4*UPP, EX-P, WG, or Z2Pro, but I haven't used any of these.
 
i think the NXT will give you more of a clear, reflective look.



try check out this post GSRstilez did on a malibu with a blue metallic paint job. he used 4* UPP on it and it's nice.



also, maybe a carnauba topper might help with the wet look.



good luck.
 
IMO NXT on dark blue mettallic looks OK but the highlights seem too bright and has a touch of a plastic look-honestly i thought ColorX looked slightly better on NBM-Wolfgang or Blackfire would probably be better choices
 
Hey Tyler.



For a sealant with a clear reflective look on a dark metallic I would try either EX-P or Z2Pro.



For a carnauba with the same properties I would try either #16, Natty's or P21S.
 
If you are not at all worried about durability, UPP might be a good choice. UPP will give you a clear, reflective wet look and initial slickness is insane, just don't expect it to last at anything near it's original condition and looks, through too many washes or bad weather.
 
Thanks for the suggestions guys. I don't really know for sure what I'd like to use. Probably the Z2Pro, even though it's kind of a pain to have to mix with ZFX. Oh well. It has the best of both worlds, I suppose. Looks and durability. Can't go wrong there. :cool:



Side note, I still have some of the original formula Z2 laying around that I would like to use up first. Is there really going to be a noticable enough difference between Z2Pro and Z2 to go ahead and order the Pro?
 
All finishing products will look the same so long as you prep the surface properly. Prep is the key. All the 'combos' that are discussed don't really make that much of a difference at the end of the day.
 
Bobsealant said:
All finishing products will look the same so long as you prep the surface properly. Prep is the key. All the 'combos' that are discussed don't really make that much of a difference at the end of the day.
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Are you saying you couldn't tell a difference between a coat of Souveran and a coat of 1980 circa Turtle Wax on a similarly prepped surface?
 
BlackSunshine said:
Are you saying you couldn't tell a difference between a coat of Souveran and a coat of 1980 circa Turtle Wax on a similarly prepped surface?
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Yes. Absolutely! Prep is everything.
 
ZaneO said:
No, that is not entirely correct. Prep is the key, but prep is only roughly 90% of the appearance.
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I respect your opinion.



With that said, please tell me how you came up with 90%?



BTW, did you know 67% of statistics are actually made up? :D
 
Agree with ZaneO.



Prep is not always 100% of the final appearance. It's almost 85-90%.



The remaining 10-15% still depends on the LSP. If that's the case, then all of us would not bother to debate over the LSP.



For I myself see a difference between:



#16, S100/P21S, on the one hand, and NXT, #26, on the other.



DEPTH doesn't mean REFLECTION (Gloss).



As Scottwax puts it, "Reflection is nothing without depth."
 
It's just a rough guesstimate. It really can't be determined and carried for each and every car, but it is just a euristic.
 
Prep is the most important part of auto detailing.





If you put Zaino on a gritty, dull, and oxidized finish, you will have a little but more shine, but nothing insane.



I truly believe that Zaino gets soo much play on other boards because 1) most people don't know what polishing is/what it can do 2) Zaino lasts a long time and 3) Zaino produces the highest level of luster/gloss which most people "eat up".





In the end, ANY product will look 'good' if you do a thorough prep job.
 
But it cannot be concluded that the LSP has no bearing on the final appearance.



I view it this way:



prep = to repair or remedy some surface defects

LSP = for aesthetics/preference



As I see an apparent difference on the Z2 Pro and NXT both on black color. It's like comparing Reflections and Depth, and saying they're the same in appearance. It may be subjective, but you know what I mean.



I presume that the thread started would prepped the surface, and that his intention is to know what would look best on a PREPPED dark blue metallic.



Surely, there could be a apparent difference between Z2 Pro and NXT in a dark blue metallic that is well prepped.



I'm not saying prep is nothing. I even do wet sand to eliminate some hard etching.
 
hey tripper



i havent had the chance to use #16 yet.



But ive used s100 as a topper for my z2 coats on my black car.



I assume u ve used both?

What are the differences? Shine, depth and durability wise?



Contemplating whether i should grab myself a jar of #16 b4 its gone 4eva.
 
In the end, ANY product will look 'good' if you do a thorough prep job.
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True, but BobSealant is pimping the hypothesis that a metallic black 330i will look identical with PS on one side and Z2 on the other as long as both sides receive identical prep steps. Both *will* look great, but there will be an easily discernible contrast on each side of the 3M tape.



prep = to repair or remedy some surface defects

LSP = for aesthetics/preference
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Well said, unless aesthetics are imaginary, as very few believe:nixweiss



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