Dawn only washes

Tom P- I apologize. After I write most of my posts I feel dumb, then someone confirms it. Also, I keep forgetting to subscribe to posts.



shill. a person who poses as a customer in order to decoy others into participating, as at a gambling house.



no, I am curious and ya'll are smart. Just trying to learn. thanks





Setec Astronomy- thanks. Most folks around here don't even bother washing their cars. Dawn leaves your paint bare. Is it better to have clean/bare paint or does the dirt that accumulates leave your paint better protected than absolutely nothing at all. btw, SA.. use bleeche wite on tire. I've used nothing else, but cannot imagine anything better.
 
I think if money is an issue and you can't buy job specific products, maybe you could use DAWN not only on you dishes, but on your car, pets, clothes, shoes, as a underarm deoderant, as a body wash...I mean it's better than nothin, right? But in the real world you wash your car with CAR WASH SOAP unless you want to specifically remove your wax you just spent an hour putting on last week. It ain't brain surgery, man. Do what'cha like!
 
integritydetail said:
But in the real world you wash your car with CAR WASH SOAP unless you want to specifically remove your wax you just spent an hour putting on last week. It ain't brain surgery, man. Do what'cha like!
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But the reality is that any cleaner is going to have some effect on the LSP, as well as the rubbing with the wash media. When I use Dawn on my dishes, or when cleaning a pad or applicator, I use a LOT more than I would car wash soap in washing my car, relative to the amount of area I am washing. I'm not sure that anyone has proven that Dawn is harsh on your LSP at say, 1/4 or 1/2 oz./gal., anymore than anyone has proven that GC isn't harsh on your LSP at say, 5 oz./gal.



As in every thread on Dawn...Dawn is a mild cleaner as cleaners go. It's nothing in comparison to many wheel cleaners as well as industrial cleaners used for degreasing. Greases used on vehichles, etc. are designed to be resistant to washout, etc.



EDIT: I guess I'm now with Knucklebuckett in thinking that these threads turn into a waste of bandwidth that just suck time out of my life. The Dawn-phobia is really a tribute to the power of marketing and corporate identity. It's amazing that because P&G doesn't want their deep pockets attacked with frivolous lawsuits by the guy that washed his car once in 14 years and the paint came off, and that Sal Zaino suggested you use a "car wash" that isn't designed to leave any residue on the surface (as all car washes leave something...sheeting agents, gloss enhancers, drying lubricants, etc.) to make sure his product bonds, Dawn becomes demonized. Yet many of you will spray HF wheel cleaners (which will dissolve your bones) on your painted wheels without thinking twice about it.
 
Setec - you sure you ain't got some good ol southern blood in you? Man, you say what I think and better too. BTW, your wheel cleaner example reminds me of the last time I went to Burger King, there was this beauty queen there in line- about 5' 1", 300 pounds getting 2 double whoppers with cheese, big fries and a DIET drink!!
 
Many here have advised against using Dawn, but I've also been told that using Ivory Liquid was ok for washing cars. IMHO, any cleaner, whether a gentle diswashing detergent or a specialized car shampoo, will have surfactants that will remove a thin layer of the sealant/wax used to protect the finish...the question remains...how aggressively does the cleaner 'strip' the wax or sealant? I'll agree that Dawn is probably the strongest 'degreaser' among the diswashing cleansers, but I don't think Ivory is bad for the paint. The big advantage the specialized car washes/shampoos have is the addition of wetting agents to assist in reducing friction while washing. If I'm out of car soap, I won't hesitate to use Ivory cause for me it is more imoprtant to get the salt mist and dust off than worry about what type of soap to use at the moment.
 
Oil said:
Tom P- I apologize. After I write most of my posts I feel dumb, then someone confirms it. Also, I keep forgetting to subscribe to posts.
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Mr. Oil, no need to apologize. Nobody here is smarter than the next guy. Well, except for Mike ;) Peoples' experiences vary. This forum is about sharing and everybody has something to contribute at some level, even you.



IMHO, you'll find all the "answers" to the questions you seek via the excellent search function.



Take care.
 
Guys, GOOD NEWS! Consumers Distort has crowned a new top dawg in the grease removing department and here it is:



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Guys, GOOD NEWS! Consumers Distort has crowned a new top dawg in the grease removing department and here it is:



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CR's take. Consider Kirkland Signature or Ajax, which are excellent and the least expensive. For a product with somewhat less impact on the environment, consider Ecover Ecological, made from a renewable, plant-based cleaning agent instead of a petroleum-based agent. Whatever product you choose, don't be wowed by claims of super suds. Cleaning occurs below the suds. :werd: Most of the tested products come in containers of 25 to 34 fluid ounces, and cost is per tablespoon.
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I can confirm, through my own independant in-kitchen testing, this stuff offers superior cleaning/degreasing when compared to DAWN (and Joy) :usa It's a pleasure to use, if you can imagine :grinno:



The stuff is cheap and the orange version I bought has a very pleasant odor. IIRC, this jumbo bottle was under $2 at Wally's.



Enjoy :)
 
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