Ron Ketcham
Active member
You never noticed more "film" in warm weather on the inside of the glass?
Dawn Dish Soap Users Chime In!
- Thread starter David Fermani
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briarpatch
New member
Nope.....new-ish Dawn product....not discontinued.....have a bottle of it in my kitchen right now
Ron Ketcham
Active member
For total removal of LSP, ferrous metal deposits, the Valugard ABC system has over 25 years of positive results, which is why vehicle manufacturers have issued TSB`s for it`s use.
Here`s where Dawn "conspiracy theories" get started on this thread
https://www.autopia.org/forums/car-...-dawn-dish-soap-bad-car-4.html?highlight=Dawn
(WARNING: This was from the days of "forum flaming" questioning the detailing knowledge and skills of Autopian members and the soap opera banter between them)
And, let`s take a poll on using Dawn Dish Soap for car washes, from mid-October, 2004:
https://www.autopia.org/forums/forum-news-updates-feedback/80929-dawn-wash.html?highlight=Dawn
What old is new; history repeats itself; what goes around comes around. (Oh yah.. Captain Cliche!)
https://www.autopia.org/forums/car-...-dawn-dish-soap-bad-car-4.html?highlight=Dawn
(WARNING: This was from the days of "forum flaming" questioning the detailing knowledge and skills of Autopian members and the soap opera banter between them)
And, let`s take a poll on using Dawn Dish Soap for car washes, from mid-October, 2004:
https://www.autopia.org/forums/forum-news-updates-feedback/80929-dawn-wash.html?highlight=Dawn
What old is new; history repeats itself; what goes around comes around. (Oh yah.. Captain Cliche!)
Desertnate
Active member
I quite using Dawn decades ago after I noticed it turning the rubber and plastic trim on my vehicles a dry, chalky white, faded look. When I quit using Dawn the problem went away. Not very scientific, but I did notice a change. Not sure if it was residue I could never get off, or if it was having some other effect on the surface. Either way, I`m better off not using it.
Overall, dish soap doesn`t seem to offer much lubrication and it takes more water/effort to rinse off. From strictly a usability standpoint, I prefer car wash soap.
While I won`t use it on my car any more, I do use it on my bicycle chain. It cuts chain grease as well as it does food grease from your dishes.
Overall, dish soap doesn`t seem to offer much lubrication and it takes more water/effort to rinse off. From strictly a usability standpoint, I prefer car wash soap.
While I won`t use it on my car any more, I do use it on my bicycle chain. It cuts chain grease as well as it does food grease from your dishes.
roscopervis
New member
Maybe I don`t get the sense of humour, but is this an in joke?
There are lots and lots of easily viewable tests that show typical dish soap doesn`t work to strip wax/sealants so all those who use it for that purpose are wasting their time. Also, dish soap has no lubrication so any wash media used will almost certainly cause marring, even if that media is `safe`.
You shouldn`t rely on chemicals to strip protection, abrasives are the only way to ensure the paint is stripped and clean.
There are lots and lots of easily viewable tests that show typical dish soap doesn`t work to strip wax/sealants so all those who use it for that purpose are wasting their time. Also, dish soap has no lubrication so any wash media used will almost certainly cause marring, even if that media is `safe`.
You shouldn`t rely on chemicals to strip protection, abrasives are the only way to ensure the paint is stripped and clean.
Accumulator
Well-known member
Desertnate- Hey, "Scientific" or not, your experience is your experience 
YMMV and all that.
roscopervis- I never found (regular) Dawn all that good at stripping LSPs either (exception being Souveran), but plenty of people seem to think it works. Ditto for Rubbing Alcohol, which some use to STRIP wax and others use to *rejuvenate* wax! (I don`t use it for either myself..)
Re its detrimental effect on tires, I never got even close to 10K out of any tires back then (note I was running Michelin`s "X Radials" from the get-go, not *quite* your age so minimal experience with bias plies).
Sounds like I managed to dodge a bullet or two with that v1.0 AA!
Hey, am I reading you right here...I`m *assuming* there`s no reason to *not* keep using "A" on the rare occasions I want a LSP-stripper?
20 years after his passing, I still have at least a half-gallon of *my* dad`s AA. Can`t seem to find any use for it since I don`t want to redo stuff all that often.
Ah, sounds like you like it. I don`t think we ever used that Power Dissolver in the kitchen, just in the shop (which sound kinda nutty..).
YMMV and all that.roscopervis- I never found (regular) Dawn all that good at stripping LSPs either (exception being Souveran), but plenty of people seem to think it works. Ditto for Rubbing Alcohol, which some use to STRIP wax and others use to *rejuvenate* wax! (I don`t use it for either myself..)
No, but even as a uhm...young and irresponsible person..I was cleaning the glass all the time anyhow. Lots of smoking in the cars back then
Re its detrimental effect on tires, I never got even close to 10K out of any tires back then (note I was running Michelin`s "X Radials" from the get-go, not *quite* your age so minimal experience with bias plies).
Sounds like I managed to dodge a bullet or two with that v1.0 AA!
Hey, am I reading you right here...I`m *assuming* there`s no reason to *not* keep using "A" on the rare occasions I want a LSP-stripper?
Bill D said:
20 years after his passing, I still have at least a half-gallon of *my* dad`s AA. Can`t seem to find any use for it since I don`t want to redo stuff all that often.
briarpatch said:
Ah, sounds like you like it. I don`t think we ever used that Power Dissolver in the kitchen, just in the shop (which sound kinda nutty..).
FIDOAG14
New member
If it`s good enough for those baby ducks it`s good enough for me!
Accumulator
Well-known member
For washing things in the same category as oil-contaminated baby ducks, I agree 100%. For things in other categories, sometimes there are better options...just like so many things that`re great for one application but not for another.
FIDOAG14
New member
Where did ScottWax go? He used to be so helpful back in the day.
Accumulator
Well-known member
I dunno, he and I fell out of touch..right after I sent him some M16 to try out (or was it some 476S? Gee, I`m not sure..been a while now).
David Fermani
Forza Auto Salon
I see Scott posting on Facebook. I’ll send him a message letting him know you guys mentioned him.
Accumulator
Well-known member
David Fermani
Forza Auto Salon
Oh, and Dawn is great for washing on hot sunny days if you want to avoid water spots. I literally soap the entire car down, then rinse and the water sheets up. No beading = no water spots.
Mr. Fermani:
"Thank you" for contacting Scottwax. Tell him we Autopians miss his posts and detailing exploits here in this forum.
Also thanks for the "Like" on Berry Theal`s epic post of his detail/restoration of the `87 Mercedes with the badly-faded paint.
Time for a thread hi-jack by Captain Obvious (What else in new!!):
I recently washed my brother-in-law`s white Dodge Caravan Up Nort` at his place with Tide powder laundry soap. It`s what he gave me, since I did not have any of my vehicle washing supplies with me. I did find a bottle marked "Degreaser" in his stash, which turned out to be diluted 3:1 Meg`s D101 All-Purpose Cleaner I has given him many years ago in a re-purposed Spray Nine spray bottle and written upon with my hand-printing as such with a black Sharpie Permanent Marker. The box of soap was unopened, since he no longer uses powder soap for laundry purposes. Truth is, it foamed/sudsed up A LOT! Cleaned off the winter-long de-icing binder traffic film and dirt/sand and mid-spring bug splatter, but I think the Meg`s APC helped with that and the removal of road tar on the lower panels and fender wheel well lips. Would I use it again myself? NO! it`s not my first choice for a car-washing soap -substitute, BUT it did work. I was able to dry the van with an old, poor-quality microfiber drying towel I had given him to keep in his work truck to use if he ever went through a tunnel car wash to manually dry his windows of excess water left over after going through the blowers at the end of such a wash. It wasn`t great, but it was better than using old, cotton bath towels-rags on hand. He moved it back outside of his garage after it was moved in after the wash, as the garage was about to used by his many family members who have cottages nearby for a Memorial Day Weekend get-together. It was raining, so as anybody knows who comes Up Nort` in the upper Midwest, when it rains you move the party indoors and the garage was large enough to accommodate everyone, so the van sat out. It was COVERED in tree pollen by the end of the weekend, but at least the dirty winter-TRF and spring bug-splatter were removed and it looked white instead of grey-brown.
"Thank you" for contacting Scottwax. Tell him we Autopians miss his posts and detailing exploits here in this forum.
Also thanks for the "Like" on Berry Theal`s epic post of his detail/restoration of the `87 Mercedes with the badly-faded paint.
Time for a thread hi-jack by Captain Obvious (What else in new!!):
I recently washed my brother-in-law`s white Dodge Caravan Up Nort` at his place with Tide powder laundry soap. It`s what he gave me, since I did not have any of my vehicle washing supplies with me. I did find a bottle marked "Degreaser" in his stash, which turned out to be diluted 3:1 Meg`s D101 All-Purpose Cleaner I has given him many years ago in a re-purposed Spray Nine spray bottle and written upon with my hand-printing as such with a black Sharpie Permanent Marker. The box of soap was unopened, since he no longer uses powder soap for laundry purposes. Truth is, it foamed/sudsed up A LOT! Cleaned off the winter-long de-icing binder traffic film and dirt/sand and mid-spring bug splatter, but I think the Meg`s APC helped with that and the removal of road tar on the lower panels and fender wheel well lips. Would I use it again myself? NO! it`s not my first choice for a car-washing soap -substitute, BUT it did work. I was able to dry the van with an old, poor-quality microfiber drying towel I had given him to keep in his work truck to use if he ever went through a tunnel car wash to manually dry his windows of excess water left over after going through the blowers at the end of such a wash. It wasn`t great, but it was better than using old, cotton bath towels-rags on hand. He moved it back outside of his garage after it was moved in after the wash, as the garage was about to used by his many family members who have cottages nearby for a Memorial Day Weekend get-together. It was raining, so as anybody knows who comes Up Nort` in the upper Midwest, when it rains you move the party indoors and the garage was large enough to accommodate everyone, so the van sat out. It was COVERED in tree pollen by the end of the weekend, but at least the dirty winter-TRF and spring bug-splatter were removed and it looked white instead of grey-brown.
+Back in the 1950s I worked for a gas station that also washed cars by hand. On real dirty cars we used Cheer laundry soap Back then I knew a few guys that used a cup of kerosene to a bucket of water to wash there cars. There cars always looked good , and you never seen any rust coming from the side mouldings.