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Anyone having problems with this product?

I used it with a PC 7424 with yellow CMA pad and I get these white speckled spots of DACP and are a real PITA to remove. It doesnt seem to take out swirls either and I apply 4 dime size spots on the pad and when I rub it on panel it feels real rough and doesnt get on panel easy. :(

After its on a panel I start at 5 and just polish away, but seems like it doesnt do much.



PS. Is it ok to use a pad thats a little wet?

I usually squeeze the pad so there is no water left but still is moist.
 
Its ok if the pad is a little wet. I've had to use it wet because it is a little damp after you clean it.



DACP will not work very well if your pad is loaded up with it. You have to keep it cleaned out if you want the best results. Its possible that the yellow pad is absorbing too much product or it is just filling up too quickly.



Try not starting at 5. Start at 2 and then switch to 5 after you have gotten it spread around the area you are trying to work. That may help too.



So there are a couple things you can try now. Try cleaning the pad a little more often. Maybe use a little more product on the pad. Use an 'S' shaped amount on the pad instead of the dots. It may be that you are simply not using enough product to get any results. Drops are good for hand application but you want to use 'S' shapes on machine pads. It works better that way for me. Maybe a smiley face will work better for you or something like that. Good luck! :xyxthumbs
 
I had a hard time figuring out how to use the DACP when I got it. Its different from other types of products I've used in the past, but I found that an S shape, or a Z shape on the pad, keeping the pad clean, and really working the product well beyond when I thought it would be done yielded great results. When used properly it amazed me, like simply erasing all the scratches and swirls.
 
If you have a pad spur tool, it would be great, but that's a few money more to spend on. What i do is, when it gets loaded, is wash it and then strike it against my other hand until most of the water is gone. By then, the pad should be a little moist instead of wet.
 
Also, if using a PC, you can take a soft brush and apply it to the pad face while the PC is running on medium speed. Don't use much pressure, just let the pad vibrating against the brush bristles do the work.



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Meguiar's said that you should never wash the pad. Just pat the pad a couple times to knock the dry ingredients loose and use it again.



But I think the washing is more ideal.
 
Never wash the pad?? That is kind of crazy. What about when you are trying to use it and it has absorbed so much product that it is useless? I just spray it out with a hose and spin dry it and then keep on working. Never washing it sounds like bad advice. Maybe they meant never throw it in with the laundry or something.
 
Seriously. It was one of the car clinic videos, the one for the DA buffer. That's what Barry said, just pat the excess residue off and reuse it!



Maybe b/c Meg's pads get destroyed in the wash.
 
When your pad is saturated with product its kinda hard to just "pat" it out. Perhaps he was speaking of when it hadn't been used and the product was all dry. You can't pat it out when it is loaded with product. There is no dryness in the pad when it is like that.



You know, I'll bet it does have something to do with them not holding up in a wash. They have a hard enough time sticking to the velcro backing plate anyway. I don't think that spraying them down with a hose should compromise them that badly though.
 
DACP is one of my favorite products. I think that 4 dime-sized drops may be too much. I make a "Z" shape with it, really thin. It sounds like the specs you are referring to may be the "dust" that DACP turns into, and yes, that's a PITA (pain in the A). The good news is that once you get that "dust" you know you've broken the DACP down. You just have to be quick with your MF towel to get that "dust" off, before it settles.

Perhaps using a CMA concave pad will make things better for you- they tend to "throw" off lest dust because of the concave pad surface, as compared to Meguiar's pads.

I use my PC on 4 to start, with some pressure, then turn it up to 6, and again use some pressure, then NO pressure, then some to finish it up once I begin to see that "dust", and it works for me!

Good luck!

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I've noticed DACP with even a slighty damp pad can make it tough to remove. I would wonder if that is why you are having a hard time removing it. I don't know what you mean by it making the panel feel rough, but it isn't going to make it feel slick. It will likely leave it feeling sticky.



I wash my Meg's pads after every use. I have washed them in the washing machine, but that is sort of tough on them. I wash them out in the sink with Dawn and hot water. It works just fine. I wouldn't wash and reuse one though without giving it time to dry. If you need more than one clean pad, have more than one clean pad when you start... Trying to reclean the same one as you go is a bit like trying to detail your car with just one towel, washing it as you go...
 
I can't imagine having a dozen pads though. I grab a new microfiber when one is dirty but microfibers are only a couple bucks apiece. I can't afford having a box full of pads that are more than ten bucks apiece when its not hard to wash them and spin them dry. If you are using DACP then it is a given that you have some swirls to take care of. I don't know a car with swirls that require DACP that is going to get taken care of with one pad or even 3 pads. I wash out my pad at least 4 times on a job to keep it clean. I haven't noticed it being any tougher to buff it out when the pad is wet. If anything I would say that it is easier because it doesn't dry as fast.
 
I've found that DACP is obviously best used on a cool surface and that you just have to let it break down and keep polishing until there is almost none left. The remaining residue is usually easy and I don't use very much.
 
Jngrbrdman said:
If you are using DACP then it is a given that you have some swirls to take care of. I don't know a car with swirls that require DACP that is going to get taken care of with one pad or even 3 pads. I wash out my pad at least 4 times on a job to keep it clean.
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Maybe it's the pad then? I've used the Meg's red cutting pad with DACP on a whole car before (not one with oxidation or anything, though, which could easily clog the pad) without needing to clean or change it. Maybe polishing pads clog up easier? I hear what you are saying about washing the pad, especially if it were a severe job. But I also know that when I use DACP with a damp pad, buffing it off is like trying to buff off glue... :nixweiss I have about 4 polishing pads...
 
I just tried DACP 2 days ago. Worked great but I still see some swirls under the bright lights(sun).

I think I used too much for each section. I wasn't sure if I was doing right way. I'm using CMA Yellow pad and I applied DACP on the pad like circle instead of Z or S shape. I set the speed to 4.5 - 5. I could wipe off with MF towel easily. after one section is done, I move to next section with circle shape of DACP on the pad again.

did I do ok? Should I try DACP again?



I have another question. I just left DACp alone and no wax etc now. If I car wash, does it remove DACP? how long DACp last? I'm hearing I should only use DACp once/year.
 
MildSeven said:
I just tried DACP 2 days ago. Worked great but I still see some swirls under the bright lights(sun).

I think I used too much for each section. I wasn't sure if I was doing right way. I'm using CMA Yellow pad and I applied DACP on the pad like circle instead of Z or S shape. I set the speed to 4.5 - 5. I could wipe off with MF towel easily. after one section is done, I move to next section with circle shape of DACP on the pad again.

did I do ok? Should I try DACP again?



I have another question. I just left DACp alone and no wax etc now. If I car wash, does it remove DACP? how long DACp last? I'm hearing I should only use DACp once/year.
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Sounds like you are doing it right. I do the circle thing on the pad too but not a complete line broken lines (like three). I spread it on the section with the speed at 3 until I cover the whole section and then crank it up to 5 and press down to work the product until almost gone then I let up on the pressure and keep buffing until you can barely see any product left. DACP does a pretty good job on minor swirls but you really need a rotary for anything more than that. The PC just doesn't generate enough heat to move the clear coat around to remove the deep swirls.



As of how long it last, it a polish not a wax so you buff/wipe it all off. There is nothing but maybe some oils left on the car. Washing is sometimes a good idea after polishing.



You really shouldn't do a heavy polishing more than twice a year.



Good luck and hope this help alittle. :wavey
 
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