Cyclo Polisher is better than sliced bread.

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After using my Porter Cable for a little over a full year on cars from showroom new to 10 years old I have come to the conclusion that the Porter Cable was a wise investment but a waste of time.



The Cyclo works much better. The normal 8 hour polishing session took 2 hours at most. The motor's don't bog down, the one speed is excellent and it works so much more efficently. For example, with the Porter Cable; I was using a yellow (heavy) pad and a compound to heavy swirls (swirls you could just about see in the shade). With the Cyclo I was using the white (medium) pads and 3M Swirl Mark Remover and I removed more swirls on every pass, used less polish and once again saved myself hours and hours and hours of polishing! Heck, even the machine itself is so much more comfortable to use, it doesn't vibrate nearly as much and doesnt leave your hand/forearm feeling tingly after using it on an entire car.



It may cost more but the cost increase to me was more than worth it, man, I really regret not getting this thing soon enough. I no longer fear heavy swirled cars because my polisher is too weak and it will take too much time. I have even bother to use anything like the yellow pads and a heavier polish like 3M Finesse IT-II.



P.S. Also tried P21S wax instead of Zaino or Klasse Glaze and I'm more than happy with that as well. I had an overall nice weekend. Put the 12 bolt with 4.10 gears in my car, detailed my buddies car, slept for 4 hours and worked at a dyno garage all day. Tired but never had some much to do, the weekend FLEW by.



GET A CYCLO!!! :up :bow
 
I have alwats liked the CP. It has a few limitations. The design makes it more difficult to get into tight areas. If you're willing to pop for a CP, get a rotary and learn to use it.
 
I have the DeWalt rotary as well, the pads are just too big for me, it's so aggrivating trying to detail a car with those monster pads but the results can never be touched with a random orbital. A rotary will amaze you every time.
 
I have the Cyclo and love the thing. I've had mine around 8-9 years. I use my rotary for heavy swirl and scratch removal and the Cyclo for polishing and wax application. Can't beat it.:)
 
I have an old Cyclo that I used when I owned my shop. We only used it for scrubbing seats and carpet. Huh, maybe I should get some pads and try it for polishing? Would be easier to use in tight spots than the rotary.
 
I had a Cyclo.. gave it to my dad and kept my PC. The Cyclo was okay but on my vehicles, there were too many spots I couldnt get it in to.
 
LightngSVT - Get some pads ASAP, it works awesome on paint.



JayC - I used the advanced concave foam pads for the Porter Cable. One of those is about as wide as the Cyclo so they are both the same. The Cyclo total pad "height" is not as bad as the Porter Cable advanced pads but the "width" is about the same; a tad less.



So far there were only a few spots I had to do my hand, with the time I saved I was more than happy.
 
I've often been interested in the Cyclo vs. the PC. I love my PC but sometimes I think it needs a little more OOMPH without needing enough cut to be worth the risk of a rotary polish.
 
The Cyclo is a great machine but carries a hefty price tag. I have 2 right now and will soon order a 3rd because the first one I bought has been dropped one too many times and sounds a little sick:(



I have been using them for about 8 or 9 years now and wouldn't give it up for the PC. It has a great feel and balance and can be used easily with one hand. The drawback is, which is really slight, is that tight spaces can be tricky BUT there is now a 4 inch adapter pad for the PC so it can then be fitted with a Cyclo pad and you can now get into even tighter spaces with the PC:up



The Cyclo combines the best of both worlds and is a true Dual Action polisher in that the pads spin or oscillate and they also vibrate and the Cyclo can take much more pressure than the PC before it bogs out.



Here is a picture of a Cyclo for those seeking.



http://www.topoftheline.com/cycorpol.html
 
Is it just me, or is the price on the Cyclo not really that bad?



For $290 you get the machine, cutting pads, polishing pads, finishing pads, scrub brushes.



So basically its $100 more than a PC equipped similarly...



Hmm...
 
Please see my post in my Sponser area! I just put in something about the Cyclo some of you may find interesting. $290? That's too much, guys!



R Regan
 
Cyclo experts...



I was reviewing the specs between the PC and Cyclo... The max OPM on the PC 7424 is 6,000 and the Cyclo 3200 opm (from topoftheline.com)...



Is there something to explain the specs when most say the Cyclo is more powerful than the PC? :)
 
Chris Y. said:


I was reviewing the specs between the PC and Cyclo... The max OPM on the PC 7424 is 6,000 and the Cyclo 3200 opm (from topoftheline.com)...



Is there something to explain the specs when most say the Cyclo is more powerful than the PC? :)
Click to expand...



I'm no expert and have never used the cyclo before, but anthony mentions that it can sustain more weight before bogging down. The speeds that you list are without load. I lean into my PC when i use it, and it slows down quite a bit. I'm guessing that the cyclo can maintain most of its speed while being weighted, which in the end could be faster than a weighted PC.
 
Raymond is correct and to add to that we must also be aware that the PC is variable speed, so that 6000 OPM is more likely than not at the #6 setting which can be very uncomfortable on the hands and wrists after an extended period of time.



Anthony
 
I think it would be beneficial to explain how the CP works, so people understand it better.



The idea behind the CP is the same as a dual-head floor polisher. It has two heads, spinning in opposite directions, so the machine remains balanced. It does not buzz or wander. The opposing heads create an overlapping polishing pattern. Each head is direct drive. This is not a random orbit, dual-action machine.



If I'm not mistaken, the heads spin at 1,800 RPM (3,600 RPM combined), which makes the machine pretty safe. The gear box generates a lot of torque, so even though you don't have the speed of a rotary, you can apply pressure to get more work out of a machine polish.



Operation of the machine is very smooth, and they are quite compared to a dual-action machine. The CP is not light... you will get a workout on a large vehicle with a lot of side panel area.



It's very easy to use on large areas, but clumsy in tight spots. If you're thinking of making this your primary machine, you should compliment it with an electric drill equipped with a 5.25" backing plate so you can machine polish areas not accessible to the CP.
 
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