Convert me to Zaino

If you choose to wax that often (it's a good thing!) then any sealant is going to be ok. A carnauba topper should now be the focus of your research.



Play with as many as you like, experiment.



You'll end up with S100. Promise.



Jim
 
Matt M said:
Most of the other waxes are loaded with silicone oil...it's cheap

and it makes a shine. It is also short lived, and while the jury may still be out on this....I avoid silicones.



^ Sweet... :rolleyes:



Stereotypes about all other evil car-care products aside, Zaino is very shiny and easy to use. If you don't like the Dawn idea, you really don't have to use it.



When I applied the Z the first time, I washed the car with regular wash, clayed and polished it (which removed all traces of wax, etc) then rewashed it with Z7. Any car wash will be enough to remove polishing oils sitting on the paint. Then go to it with the Zaino.



If you are curious about it, just try it. You'll never really know how you like it until you use it. :)
 
Aurora40 said:




If you are curious about it, just try it. You'll never really know how you like it until you use it. :)



Thats very true. I used it for the 1st this weekend and it is a different look. One I havent totally put a finger on weather I like or not but it does look good.
 
Aurora40.....I did not mention any other brands or products.



I avoid silicones for a few reasons, and Zaino does use the lack of silicones as part of their sales pitch.



No need for the silicone debate here....but is anything I wrote inaccurate?
 
thinkweb said:
Say good-bye to even tire wear. :xyxthumbs

The camber is only that extreme when it's on the ground. To drive an airbagged car, you fill the airbags up, the car/truck raises, and the camber corrects itself. As long as you don't slam it down in motion, the tire wear should be fine.



OneCleanCL, I've always wondered how the ride is on bags... care to fill me in? :) I'm into sport trucks and I'd probably do a simple static drop, but those show trucks laying frame/rockers/doors always catch my attention. lol
 
Thanks for all the info guys. I hear a lot about this S100 carnauba, and i want to give that a try. right now my carnauba 'topper' (which i use on top of a polymer) is called W-1, made by Granitize. Green in color. anyone ever heard of it or used it?



PFDarkside- to answer your question, the ride is fair. Not horrible, but not great either. it takes a lot of getting used to. Also, you have to make sure you're at the right settings at all times, for A) even tire wear and B) ride comfort. Even if you hit a bump, air will 'slam' out, and cause you to go lower. Lot of maintenance also. Air tank needs to be drained on occasion, compressors need to be oiled, etc etc. But its all worth it, when you pull up at a light, girls are checkin the car (and you) out, and then all of a sudden...PPPSSSSHHHHTTT!! slammed to the floor!! I've done it countless times, and the result is always a big smile and a dropped jaw. I wouldnt trade air ride for the world lol.
 
heres another pic of that negative camber-



katanaonair.jpg
 
lol

Not a huge fan of the whole import lowrider stuff, but i gotta say....the color of the car is AMAZING....the car looks AWSOME....(Minus the oversized muffler, which I know is more for looks on your car than anything else, so its cool)

The paint already looks awsome, so how much better are you trying to get! LOL

My uncle is a HUGE fan of Zaino, but his only complaint is that (on his Superformance Cobra, blue and white) once you start getting ALOT of layers of Zaino on, small defects in the paint stand out more. I dunno if this is really true or just him going crazy or whatever, but he says he's never seen anything better....
 
Matt M said:




No need for the silicone debate here....but is anything I wrote inaccurate?



The part about how the gloss silicones can give is short lived. Any product is going to degrade over time but I find cars I've used both sealants and carnauba based products that contain silicones still look really good after 3-4 months.



Personally, I like the enhanced gloss, wetness and depth you can get from more conventional products.



If you feel Zaino is the best product you have used, who am I to argue with you though? I don't have your eyes and perception in my head so I certainly can't disagree with you on what looks best in your opinion. :)
 
Matt M said:
No need for the silicone debate here....but is anything I wrote inaccurate?



Matt, nothing inaccurate with what you just said. It's just a very unpopular opinion. Don't you know by now that when speaking about Zaino here on Autopia, you gotta walk on egg-shells...lest you get picked on? :D
 
Seems there's a lot of that going on here.Way too many ego's here and most seem to forget it's just car polish,wax or sealants.
 
Tony,

I do not think it was the Zaino opinion but the constant preaching about how other products contain ingredients that Mat prefers not to have on his paint.

It is okay to not use certain chemicals on one's paint but to infer and constantly remind everyone whenever a thread like this one appears that we that do use these "forbidded juices" are walking down the wrong path is irritating.



I use Zaino for 2 reasons: Durability and Appearance. If Sal decided to add a silicone-like product to his wonderful mix, I would still use Zaino. JMO
 
04BlackAV said:
Seems there's a lot of that going on here.Way too many ego's here and most seem to forget it's just car polish,wax or sealants.



Were you speaking of my post specifically, or more generally?



I don't think it's my ego that made me post that. I'm quite aware it's just car wax.



However, stating that most all other products are loaded with silicones of dubious value doesn't really contribute any value to the discussion. I certainly am not mad at Matt for saying it or anything, and hope he wasn't offended or mad at me. I just don't think it was relevant to anything or very constructive. It seemed a bit like a cheap jab at other products in order to state the pluses of the discussed product. You could have just said Zaino has no silicones, and if that matters to anyone in particular, they'll take that as a useful nugget.



Matt, it's no biggie, but yeah, what you said was inaccurate. Do most other products contain silicones? Which ones? Does Klasse? Does Liquid Glass? Does Glanz Wax? Does NXT? Maybe some of those do, maybe they don't, I don't really know and I doubt anyone here knows definitively about all of them (maybe about some as some even use the fact they contain them in their marketing pitch). Are silicones cheap? Are they really short-lived? Blackfire lasts like crazy for me and it claims to be based entirely on silicon (from their marketing at least).



You said Zaino's marketing mentions it, therefore it's relevant. But that's just a marketing pitch. Their marketing also mentions the dubiousness of oils in general, but Zaino apparently contains (or contained) some type of oilish something. What was it? I've no idea. Frankly I dont' care that much. I find the Autopian analyses of chemistry interesting and such, but I'm more of a neanderthal who cares mostly about whether or not it works when the product hits the paint (and I think Zaino works pretty well, so I could care less what's in it provided it isn't gonna make my paint fall off or riddle me with tumors). I do find application technique discussions very interesting, because often a product works or doesn't work based soley on the technique.



It sometimes seems anyone who posts about Zaino, but doesn't use it religiously, also has to walk on eggshells. Why should anyone walk on eggshells? If we all post things that are constructive and add to the discussion, then no one will have to walk on anything (not to imply I only post constructive stuff). :) :wavey
 
04BlackAV, lol, looks like you were right!



Simply amazing. Nothing else quite brings about these kinds of long, boring, & defensive posts like getting your ego knocked.



Come on everyone, just chill.
 
OneCleanCL - - -

Zaino, like all of the protectants, gives a different look on different colors. IMO on your paint Zaino might look a little flat, but would have great reflectivity. It would cry out for a topping of a good quality carnauba paste wax. Klasse HGSG might be a better choice as a base. Since you don’t mind spending a few bucks on your car I’d recommend that you buy Klasse AIO and HGSG and also buy Zaino - try both side-by-side and see which process is the most pleasing to your eyes.



BTW, although not to my tastes, I think that your ride looks great! If I were 50 years younger I’d want something similar - but on second thought - if I were 50 years younger I’d be out chasing girls and not playing with my cars!
 
LOL, but does the title to this thread make anyone wonder? It's like waking up in the morning and saying "You know, I think I'll join the Borg Collective today."



To the original poster: Wash, clay, clean, polish, protect. If you do that, then the product names don't matter. Find something that you like from a company you trust and use it often.





Tom
 
asjk07 said:
04BlackAV, lol, looks like you were right!



Simply amazing. Nothing else quite brings about these kinds of long, boring, & defensive posts like getting your ego knocked.



Come on everyone, just chill.



Thank you for so succinctly making my point about constructive posts! :bigups
 
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