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Setec Astronomy said:
Fair enough. I also think he has a right to just stop using a product and move on, without having to give any feedback to the mfr., defective or not. He wasn't a beta tester, who agreed to do so.



But he did kept slaming that mfr over the forums without giving him a chance...YOU think this is right?
 
The Edge said:
Mike, I think you are missing something here. I never said anyone could not have their opinion, and I never sent a nasty email to Joe saying he could not have an opinion either. I asked him in a PM...



Well, Justin was right about one thing, no one died and left me in charge of moderating this thread. Not only has this thread been hijacked, there have been several breaches of forum rules, including your (The Edge) posting here as a mfr. rep (unless you have just become a sponsor).



At this point I will retire (acknowledging applause from several corners!) and let the management decide who is right/wrong and whether this thread has a reason to continue.
 
I think everyone involved in this thread needs to take a chill pill. What's the purpose of this pissing match?



When a person has a problem with a product, their first response should be to take the issue to the product manufacturer or reseller for resolution... not to the internet. Likewise, the maker of the product should not be trying to resolve the problem here... in public (the rules are very clear about using the forum for customer service).



While I realize car damage, of any kind, can be emotional, it serves NO PURPOSE to air the issue here before the product maker or reseller is given a fair opportunity to resolve the problem. After all, it may very well be the USER'S ERROR, not a product problem, that caused the problem.



No member has the RIGHT TO SLAM a product, company or person here... it's not ethical. The proper way is to talk to the other party and WORk IT OUT.



This discussion is not in the spirit of Autopia. Parties involved need to take it off-line and work it out. WHEN it's resolved and everyone is happy report back the good news.
 
DavidB said:
I think everyone involved in this thread needs to take a chill pill. What's the purpose of this pissing match?



When a person has a problem with a product, their first response should be to take the issue to the product manufacturer or reseller for resolution... not to the internet. .
The thread was taken of topic..



My Apologies...
 
Setec Astronomy said:
It's one thing to defend a mfr., but why are you dragging another mfr. in the dirt? And exaggerating the number of threads about backing plates damaging a finish? Sure, there have been plenty of threads about backing plates failing, but I only recall one about any damage, the "famous" one about the screw-on plate for a drill. Apparently I missed the other 99. :nixweiss



Wow! My thread is "famous"? I guess that's something to be proud of. The only thing I'll say is that I got IMO some seriously poor customer service from Lake Country in that situation. I feel I personally did the right thing by first going to the place I bought the product and then to the manufacturer. I never posted one word about the situation until I felt the manufacturer had refused to stand behind his product by at the very least launching a meaningful investigation.



I've since switched to Edge products and Aaron has been great to me. Like many people I've bugged him for products like 4" pads and a "polishin' pal" like adapter for Edge pads and he has responded by sending them to me even though they were not products he made. How many companies would do that for a customer?
 
Joe's gone over the line. I'm sure justin could operate a rotary damn fine

This kind of wording indicates to me the kind of person he is.



Personally, I've switched to LC's eurotech's and CCS pads but edge and sonus are still used sometimes.



No way Mr Edge would PM joe as he said he did.
 
David.....

I agree with you totally on your comments about this thread and it's posters including me. The only thing is, joe has threatened people and slandered them, this includes EDGE and even my abilities as a detailer. I am no way a whiner, but I was temporarily banned for much much less than these actions. You know as well as others do, that I receive no monetary compensation from EDGE or any other manufacturers. I do get samples sent to me to test and review and for one member to continuously slam me is unacceptable and I'm frankly tired of it.



Something needs to be done about it.
 
justin30513 said:
David.....

I agree with you totally on your comments about this thread and it's posters including me. The only thing is, joe has threatened people and slandered them, this includes EDGE and even my abilities as a detailer. I am no way a whiner, but I was temporarily banned for much much less than these actions. You know as well as others do, that I receive no monetary compensation from EDGE or any other manufacturers. I do get samples sent to me to test and review and for one member to continuously slam me is unacceptable and I'm frankly tired of it.



Something needs to be done about it.

You know you don't stop,,Talk about slander tell me who i threatened and slandered..Other then here at Autopia i'm not even sure i've done anything..You send PM over at AG with your Advertisement page with AGs Logo along with the Edge Logo,then you come back here to stir up the pot :grrr ..I haven't PMed you or threatened you or anyone else for that matter...



Justin30513 said:
I too pay for everything I own. My time is money and when I take the time to take pictures and right a lengthy review that is unbiased, that is payment for the products that I receive.
Justin you already admitted to it..
 
Admit?



Admitting something mean I've done something wrong.



So you don't remember the quote you said of "When ever you're in Illinois.....Look me up!"?



I tried to PM you here but they are off. I PM'd you there like a man, so we could talk personally. What I do over there is my business. What you do here and say about me is my business sir.



You can even call me if you need to. Everyone is big on a forum but when called out, never do anything.
 
justin30513 said:
Admit?



Admitting something mean I've done something wrong.



So you don't remember the quote you said of "When ever you're in Illinois.....Look me up!"?



I tried to PM you here but they are off. I PM'd you there like a man, so we could talk personally. What I do over there is my business. What you do here and say about me is my business sir.



You can even call me if you need to. Everyone is big on a forum but when called out, never do anything.

Justin,it was none of your business to get involved in this thread..So look me up what is thatsuppose too mean.... your PM came thru ,you could have PMed here..but no, lets keep it going after David said knock it off..



i'm not sure why you banned here,never thought it was any of my business to ask, now you want to have me banned from the boards?
 
joe.p said:
So look me up what is that suppose too mean....





That was a quote that you posted before.



Why did you not respond to my pm?



I will drop it when I feel like. It was business to defend a product that I use everyday that was being slammed by you.
 
I'm sorry if my posts now are offending.



Sorry to David and to others.....



In previously posted words..........I'm done.
 
justin30513 said:
That was a quote that you posted before.



Why did you not respond to my pm?



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Only your advertisment Logo popped up no message..if you had a message i didn't see..This has gone on way too long here and i'm not about to carry this over to AG..
 
Using a spray can of sandable primer, and touch up paint (wet sanding with a sponge pad between all coats), a spot repair is possible. It may be necessary to apply glazing putty first (before the primer) if there are deep scratches. When masking around the repair, it's good to lift the inner edge of the tape away from the surface to help feather the paint into the surrounding area.
 
dlewis said:
Using a spray can of sandable primer, and touch up paint (wet sanding with a sponge pad between all coats), a spot repair is possible. It may be necessary to apply glazing putty first (before the primer) if there are deep scratches. When masking around the repair, it's good to lift the inner edge of the tape away from the surface to help feather the paint into the surrounding area.



That's some really good info there.



Have you done this alot? I would love to see pics bro.
 
Well, this thread seems to devolved into utter uselessness . . . even after DavidB's warning, y'all just couldn't let it go. So, I'll take care of the temptation to continue the sniping with a big ol' thread lock.



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