Collinite's 476S Super Doublecoat Auto Wax Review

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ScubaStevo

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I recieved my container of Collinite 476S about 2 days ago; from Ed at No Swirl Polish Detailing. This review is compleltly non-biased and you can be assured I will give my honest opinion.



When I first looked at the container, I thought "whoa, this stuff must be 30 years old!". The looks are very olden looking, but I rather like the container. Very easy to open, yet seals tightly.

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Instructions:

"New, fast, easy to use, detergent proof formulation eliminates hard rubbing, buffing and frequent rewaxing. Gleaming luster lasts at least a full year. Excellent for use on fine furnature, wood paneling ect. Provides excellent protection for fiberglass, wood, and metal boats. Clear coat safe"



"To obtain professional results:



1. Apply wax with clean, soft damp cloth or sponge to a section at a time, and let dry to a haze.

2.Polish lightly with anouther clean, dry, soft cloth to produce a brilliant luster."



I'm guessing the instructions are for furnature or something, as they didn't work very well for my application.



Ed's directions of "working it in" more works a lot better. I used a microfiber bonnet to remove the wax. Worked good, but I had to go back by hand to get little streaks away.



Observations:



I applied the product by hand to begin with, and then worked it in with my PC with a finishing pad. I found it difficult to work with, but I think with a little practise I could get it on a little easier.



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Filling Properties:



I found that this wax actually DID fill in the swirls left by a repaint long ago. I like it.

Right waxed, left not.

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Swirls were still apparent, but it definatly made the paint a lot deeper in the sun.



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I must say, I REALLY like this product. Though application and removal can be tricky at times, it is no where as bad as Klasse SG. Depth is greatly improved, but shine is reduced once paint is prepped properly. I definatly wouldn't recommend this as a one step product.



Rating:



Ease of use: 2.5/5

Durablilty: **to be updated**

Depth: 5/5

Reflection: 3.5/5

Overall appearance 4/5

Beading: 5/5 (at point of application)



Overall score: 4.5/5



Here are some picture of the beading, and the paint surface after being properly prepped (SSR 3, 2.5, 1 step process).



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Once again, I'd like to thank Ed for providing the product for this review. He's a super guy, so I hope you use him for all your collonite needs in Canada.
 
Ive been using 476S for a while.. I agree with your findings.. its great stuff but a little tough to work with.



On a side note, and this is completely random and some knowledge no one will probably care about but what the heck... 476S used to be sold in small tins and used as wax for pool cues. I never realized it until I bought some 476S and as soon as I opened the container and saw the product and the smell, I knew it was the same stuff.



Totally useless trvia :)
 
ScubaStevo- Good review, and I'm glad you like the 476S. I like your willingness to work out the application and not just say "this stuff is hard to use".



I too like 476S, just finished applying it to the rocker panels of Accumulatorette's A8.



I apply it directly to the PC pad rather than applying it to the panel and *then* working it with the PC. I dunno if it makes a difference; I find it easy stuff to work with but then I've used it a lot. And of course, I prefer to apply it with the Cyclo ;)



I'm glad you used such a great color for your test subject and that you did such good prep. People (myself included :o ) seldom think of 476S as a "beauty wax" but it can look great if you apply it to a good finish.



The swirl hiding is pretty good, huh? This is my go-to wax on vehicles that I don't fully remove the marring from.



Like you, I find that removal by MF bonnet always requires a follow-up by hand, but then I find this with most all LSPs. Sometimes I'll do the first removal pass by hand and then use the MF bonnet for the follow-up- you might want to try it both ways.



Heh heh, you're gonna love the durability, and the beading works great for other people's vehicles. Those beads say "nice waxjob", people know they got what they paid for and they *really* like how long it lasts.



JayC- Interesting about the poolcue application. Maybe that's it...I keep thinking that the smell of 476S reminds me of *something* from my past but I can't quite put my finger on it. I've been :confused: about this for *years* and I just can't quite place it. One reason I stocked up on it before the reformulation was a concern that the new version might smell different :D
 
Nice - not tried the 476, just Marques D'Elegance and that's a bit of a PITA to apply when compared with other paste waxes - gives lovely results though and beads like crazy for a loooooong time too!
 
Heres a little tip on making applying of 476S easier, simply use a hair dryer or heat gun and warm up the top layer of the wax and it spreads on like butter ! I have been able to remove most of the wax with just a plain jane black LC polishing pad although it leaves a little dusting just wipe off with MF to rid it.
 
The 476 looks pretty damn good on that red paintwork! I've got a tin of the stuff which I haven't got round to using, but will now definitely try it out this weekend. Btw, I've been using 845 for a while and have noticed that it sometimes appears that the shine is somehow muted, but not in a bad way. Its hard to describe, but especially when the car has been wet by rain it seems that there is an extra layer of gloss on the paint, repelling the water.
 
I usually apply it by PC with a finishing pad..... very easy that way. The best part about application by machine is the thin even coats you get, that make the final removal very easy even by hand. I made once the "mistake" to let the wax sit in one panel overnight. Next day I was ready for the chisel, but it came out easy. I think the very thin even coat made the difference.



Keep us updated in your finding comparing 476S vs 845.
 
Excellent write up and visual aids! Thanks for taking the time to share this with us.



Have you tried Pink Wax or Natty's Blue? I'd be interested in hearing how this compares.
 
EdLancer said:
Heres a little tip on making applying of 476S easier, simply use a hair dryer or heat gun and warm up the top layer of the wax and it spreads on like butter ! I have been able to remove most of the wax with just a plain jane black LC polishing pad although it leaves a little dusting just wipe off with MF to rid it.
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Ed, that sounds like a great tip. I'll have to try that next time I apply some of the 476S. :up
 
mgm121499 said:
Excellent write up and visual aids! Thanks for taking the time to share this with us.



Have you tried Pink Wax or Natty's Blue? I'd be interested in hearing how this compares.
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They will look deeper and wetter than the 476S, but stand NO change against the Collinite in durability. 476S is not billed as a beauty wax, but can look great. Its main strength is the durability. However, remember tha preparation is the most important factor for final look. As far a better overall product, the moderate advantage in looks Pink or nattys will have over Collinite cannot offset the huge disadvantage they would have in durability.



Use whatever please you the most: Looks or durability.
 
You're going to love the durability.



I used 3x layers of #476s (yes, it's layerable) last winter & I still had significant beading in the spring, not the same as freshly applied but I had beading after a winter of snow, ice, salt, frequent wand washes, and a few bucket washes when the weather was reasonable.



Apply it thin & do multi-layers just to make sure you have complete coverage. Also, I freely admit I do not have "golden eyes" but, to my eyes, it looks great & slickness is right up there with a few premium carnaubas that I've tried.



Note to AndyC_1: according to Collinite CS, Marques D'Elegance is virtually the same product as #476s & costs more so they (Collinite CS people) use #476s.
 
NYV6Coupe said:
You're going to love the durability.



I used 3x layers of #476s (yes, it's layerable) last winter & I still had significant beading in the spring, not the same as freshly applied but I had beading after a winter of snow, ice, salt, frequent wand washes, and a few bucket washes when the weather was reasonable.



Apply it thin & do multi-layers just to make sure you have complete coverage. Also, I freely admit I do not have "golden eyes" but, to my eyes, it looks great.



Note to AndyC_1: according to Collinite CS, is virtually the same product as #476s & costs more so they (Collinite CS people) use #476s.
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NYV6Coupe is correct on this. The Collinite folks have actually steered people away from the Marques D'Elegance and suggested the cheaper #476S is essentially the same. Kind of strange marketing :nixweiss , but it does appear that they may value honesty over profit.
 
chml17l said:
NYV6Coupe is correct on this. The Collinite folks have actually steered people away from the Marques D'Elegance and suggested the cheaper #476S is essentially the same...
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Yeah, they told me the same thing. Sorta funny how they knocked the MdE and made jokes about people insisting on spending more and wanting a different smell. Said that none of *them* use MdE on their own cars.



FWIW, I've also heard that one of their other waxes (forget which one) is the 476S packaged in a larger tin. Even more cost effective. I just bought the 476S as a can lasts me for years anyhow (and I have a whole case of the old pre-VOC regs stuff stashed away). Might matter for somebody who does a lot of vehicles though.
 
NYV6Coupe said:
Are you thinking of #885 Fleetwax?
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Yup, you're correct. The #885 Fleetwax really is the 476S Doublecoat wax, but in a larger 12 oz. can. Great value for money. Sometime ago, there was a seller on eBay selling cans of #885 for $9.95 each. Needless to say, I stocked up!
 
Man, a larger tin of Collinite?! :shocked I reckon one normal tin would last forever since one application on a medium car uses an infinitessimally small amount of wax, combined with the phenomenal durability of Collinite. A large tin could be handed down generation to generation :laugh:
 
anyone layer another paste or liquid carnuaba over collinate? Something like nattys or #16/#26 or souveran? Would these be the best of both worlds? Protection and beauty :nixweiss
 
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