Collinite V.O.C. Info Update
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imported_NYV6Coupe
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I'm pretty sure #845 Insulator Wax is the liquid version of #476s paste so I think one layer of each would be the same as 2x layers of either.
Not much to be gained there.
I checked two good sites for these products, www.mactecllc.com and www.thebestwax.com and, based on cost-per-ounce, #885 is a better deal, considering #885 & #476s are the same product in different size containers.
#476s $12.95 for 9oz.
#885 $14.50 for 12oz.
#915 $25.20 for 12oz.
Not much to be gained there.
I checked two good sites for these products, www.mactecllc.com and www.thebestwax.com and, based on cost-per-ounce, #885 is a better deal, considering #885 & #476s are the same product in different size containers.
#476s $12.95 for 9oz.
#885 $14.50 for 12oz.
#915 $25.20 for 12oz.
imported_Bence
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Hey, if the 845 is the liquid form of 476, then 238 is a brick/rock/stone version of 476???!!! 
(see below):
#S-238 Permanent Insulator Wax
This is a carnauba wax for new and old insulators alike, and gives an almost indestructible protective coating. It can increase dielectric strength of new insulators over 10%, used insulator to a much greater extent, and produces a high gloss finish. Works in combination with Collinite's High Voltage Insulator Cleaner for insulators and bushings.
(see below):#S-238 Permanent Insulator Wax
This is a carnauba wax for new and old insulators alike, and gives an almost indestructible protective coating. It can increase dielectric strength of new insulators over 10%, used insulator to a much greater extent, and produces a high gloss finish. Works in combination with Collinite's High Voltage Insulator Cleaner for insulators and bushings.
I have a hard time keeping my hands off the car for more than a couple days.
Accumulator
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stevet said:
I haven't used Fleet Wax either.
And FWIW, I dunno about the "IW is liquid 476s" line...it just doesn't seem right to me. IMO (and I'm not chemist) they're two completely different products that are merely comparable in certain ways.
And I dunno about using industrial waxes on vehicles. I remember people talking about using mold-release waxes on vehicles- Mike Phillips was *very* adamant that it wasn't a good idea.
If I could clarify the difference between 476s Doublecoat and 845 Insulator Wax.
They ARE NOT the same, although similar. They have the same basic formula, but 476 has more carnauba. 476 is a paste while 845 is more of a gel; makes sense, and somewhat relates to Accumulator's thoughts. 476 and 885 Fleet Wax (as well as 238) are the same as discussed.
Paste = more Liquid = less
845 is designed for greater ease of application. That is why the liquid form. The carnauba had to be decreased and other chemicals increased to meet the need of the product.
Hope this helps.
Good price on 885 Fleet Wax is here- http://www.shipstore.com/ss/html/CLT/CLT885.html
A previous thread mentions some of the info above. http://autopia.org/forums/showthrea...ge=12&highlight=collinite prices&pagenumber=4
They ARE NOT the same, although similar. They have the same basic formula, but 476 has more carnauba. 476 is a paste while 845 is more of a gel; makes sense, and somewhat relates to Accumulator's thoughts. 476 and 885 Fleet Wax (as well as 238) are the same as discussed.
Paste = more Liquid = less
845 is designed for greater ease of application. That is why the liquid form. The carnauba had to be decreased and other chemicals increased to meet the need of the product.
Hope this helps.
Good price on 885 Fleet Wax is here- http://www.shipstore.com/ss/html/CLT/CLT885.html
A previous thread mentions some of the info above. http://autopia.org/forums/showthrea...ge=12&highlight=collinite prices&pagenumber=4
870 is a one step product that is the same as 126. 870 is the marine while 126 is the auto application. Both have cleaners and wax. It is confusing.
When I first looked at 870, I thought it may have been a liquid version of 845 IW. I said, "Oh boy, gallons of IW!" Not the case. Only a wish.
When I first looked at 870, I thought it may have been a liquid version of 845 IW. I said, "Oh boy, gallons of IW!" Not the case. Only a wish.
imported_NYV6Coupe
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shaw: I've never used #845 so what I said "...#845 is the liquid version of #476s" is based solely on the initial correspondence I had with Mike Oczkowski and not my own personal thoughts. I am far from qualified to make such a judgement.
Following is content of two October emails combined and he said:
"With the winter coming up I would recommend using our #476s Super DoublecoatPaste Wax. The #476s provides the best protection and durability.
The #845 is basically the liquid version of the #476s and is easier to apply andremove. You probably get 1-2 months more protection using the #476s.
Both the #845 and #476s do contain solvent so it might do some light cleaning if any. Both products are pure waxes, not cleaner/waxes. Applying in layers will not effect the original layer applied and we usually recommend waiting at least one hour in between applications.
To completely remove the wax from the finish you would have to apply prep-sol. "
Following is content of two October emails combined and he said:
"With the winter coming up I would recommend using our #476s Super DoublecoatPaste Wax. The #476s provides the best protection and durability.
The #845 is basically the liquid version of the #476s and is easier to apply andremove. You probably get 1-2 months more protection using the #476s.
Both the #845 and #476s do contain solvent so it might do some light cleaning if any. Both products are pure waxes, not cleaner/waxes. Applying in layers will not effect the original layer applied and we usually recommend waiting at least one hour in between applications.
To completely remove the wax from the finish you would have to apply prep-sol. "
NYV6: No problem here, and nothing directed at yourself or anyone else for that matter. Just trying to get everyone on the same page. I did mention some of the facts in the previous thread that I listed above with a link to the $ 12.95 price for #885 on the reply. I guess no one read it, forgot it, or must have took it with a grain of salt. That is why I offerred up the comments.
Now we will all have to wait for the next flash in, "As Collinite Turns".
Now we will all have to wait for the next flash in, "As Collinite Turns".
imported_NYV6Coupe
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shaw: no offense taken.
Just trying to make it clear that I was paraphrasing using the words of a Collinite CS person and not my own words.
Information is best used when shared among many and my only intention is to be helpful with regards to sharing with others.
It's pretty obvious you've been using these products longer than I have so I appreciate your input. I'm pleased thus far with the results of using #476s but I'm always interested in reading the thoughts and experiences of others.
Just trying to make it clear that I was paraphrasing using the words of a Collinite CS person and not my own words.
Information is best used when shared among many and my only intention is to be helpful with regards to sharing with others.
It's pretty obvious you've been using these products longer than I have so I appreciate your input. I'm pleased thus far with the results of using #476s but I'm always interested in reading the thoughts and experiences of others.
sgo
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eShine said:
"because its formulated from the highest-ever concentration of pure Carnauba waxes. And no abrasives means all Collinite waxes are absolutely clear coat safe. It doesn't get any better"
From their web site.