Collinite 476s vs 915

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stevet

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There has been some recent threads about Collinite waxes lately.

The two waxes mentioned most are 845 Insulator Wax and 476s Super Double Coat. Apparently 476s and 855 Fleetwax are the same thing. Has anybody used the 915? It's Collinites most expensive wax and according to an email from Collinite that was posted on Autopia it Contains 24% more carnauba than 476s.



Price not being an issue what is Collinites best wax? I would think it would be 915. it's supposed to be very similar to 476s but has more carnauba.
 
The guys I've spoken with at Collinite always act like the 915 is a wax for dummies who insist on spending more money with the idea that "more expensive means better". It's kinda funny, but they are always adamant that it's waste to buy that one and that they sorta :rolleyes: about it :nixweiss I've even kidded them about the way they put down their own "best product" but they stand firm about it. Hope I don't get anybody there in hot water by posting this....



Full disclosure: I have not tried 915 and have no idea if it's really better, worse than, or the same as the 476S.
 
Like Andrew I have never tried the 476 and I have the Collinite 915, S100 and #16. The guys at Collinite have told me the same thing as Accumulator but I bought the 915 before I talked with them or found Autopia.



IMO the S100 is without a doubt as easy to use as any wax. Wipe on wipe off, looks great, and does not stain trim. The 915 is not too bad as long as you wipe it off immediately and do not let it sit or then you are talking about some serious buffing. I don't think it looks quite as good as the S100 (although not that as far off as many might think) but the 915 is MUCH more durable and beads as well as anything I have ever seen. I just used the #16 for the first time about a week ago. It goes on and off almost as easy as S100 but a little easier than the 915. I expect the durability to be inbetween S100 and 915 (closer to 915 than S100) and I also think the look is inbetween S100 and the 915 (VERY close to S100). All in all for the money I believe the #16 may be the best value of the three but I will probably keep all three in my arsenal for specific occasions.



Collinite for base layer carnauba in the winter and topped with #16 and I plan to use #16 as my base layer in the summer and top it with S100 for the special occasions where I want just a little extra pop!
 
I have used collinite 476 for 10 years now I will say it works great But does it give clearity and reflection as good as the others no but in the winter my car is never clean but sandy and salty so i go for the protection first Now that i'm a schooled detailer i'm going to have to find another wax for the summer..
 
OutlawTitan said:
..Collinite for base layer carnauba in the winter and topped with #16 and I plan to use #16 as my base layer in the summer and top it with S100 for the special occasions where I want just a little extra pop!
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Here's a theoretical Q (don't have time/motivation to try it myself, just positing the question)-



If the Collinite lacks clarity/depth/etc., and it's the stuff actually *on the paint*, can adding a beauty wax over top of the Collinite really "fix" all that much? You still have the Collinite between the paint and your eyes. Hope that made sense....just wondering out loud (as I kill time before I go put another coat/layer/application of 476S on the A8).



Heh heh, if I really wanted to know I'd put #16 on the A8 and see if it makes a difference, but I wanna do the 476S by Cyclo/spitshine using water (instead of the QD I used last time).
 
I am not one of those that believes that Collinite #915 lacks clarity/depth/etc. so yes I believe that #16 MAY improve the way it looks.



If I recall Scottwax used to have a picture of that blue Acura that he used Collinite (not sure which product) that looked as good as any car I have ever seen on this site. I know that he has since done that car with other LSP's that looked great as well. Of course, every picture of his work looks great.
 
When I called them and asked which wax would be the best and they told me the 476S was the best. I guess I have to believe they know their products better than anybody and I gave them every opportunity to sell me whatever THEY thought was best regardless of cost. I'm not buying anymore (I bought a case of it) so I guess I'll never find out any different.:D
 
I'm curious about the "most expensive" part. I just bought a bottle of 915 for + / - $12. I put two coats on my cavalier in a 2 day period and used MAYBE 30 DROPS (pea sized) of product total for both coats.



At that rate of useage, there is no way it can be considered 'expensive.'



BTW, it's been on my car untouched (washed only once) for about a month and very little dirt is sticking to the car, and even being as dirty as it is (relatively speaking), most areas are still beading nicely.
 
Dom M,,



915 is a paste wax. It doesn't come in bottles, it comes in a can. I don't know what product you are using but it isn't the 915 I'm talking about.:) The #915 retails for about $25.00. I think you might be talking about the Insulator wax. It is an excellent product to.
 
stevet said:
Dom M,,



915 is a paste wax. It doesn't come in bottles, it comes in a can. I don't know what product you are using but it isn't the 915 I'm talking about.:) The #915 retails for about $25.00. I think you might be talking about the Insulator wax. It is an excellent product to.
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You're right, my bad...I have the #845 Insulator :o
 
Does Insulator Wax have cleaning properties? Can I put a IW coat over a EX-P coat without removing it? Does IW have Carnauba?

Thanks.
 
maesal said:
Does Insulator Wax have cleaning properties? Can I put a IW coat over a EX-P coat without removing it? Does IW have Carnauba?

Thanks.
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I dont think so, I have done with #845 over EX-P and looks great.
 
maesal said:
Could you please upload photos of your results?

Does #845 have Carnauba?

Thanks !!
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Per your request. Here's a shot on a 2004 silver Mazda Protoge.

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I'm gonna throw in my 2¢ on the matter, I use and love both products.



#476S is without a doubt the most durable thing I have tried to date. From my experiece, it is harder to work with than alot of other products around today. Application is not as easy as say #16, and removal is not a quick wipe and its gone. But, all in all, it's not something that I would dread doing, and the results are worth the effort. Looks are actually very good, at least my dark grey car. Durability is outstanding. To do the whole car with #476S is about an hours work.



My absolute favorite product is #845. Applied by PC, I can do the car in about 20 minutes. Removal is almost effortless (if it's applied VERY thin). IMO, the looks of #845 rival anything else i've used (better than #16). I think the looks are very similar to NXT, with alot of shine but still good depth. In addition, the durability of #845 is great. I usually apply once a month in the summer and have found that (at least from water beading) that at 4 to 6 weeks, it is about as good as the day it was applied.



Overall, both are excellent product. For the price, I would purchase both and see which you like better. Can't go wrong either way.
 
maesal said:
Does Insulator Wax have cleaning properties? Can I put a IW coat over a EX-P coat without removing it? Does IW have Carnauba?

Thanks.
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That would be SS126.
 
Accumulator said:
The guys I've spoken with at Collinite always act like the 915 is a wax for dummies who insist on spending more money with the idea that "more expensive means better". It's kinda funny, but they are always adamant that it's waste to buy that one and that they sorta :rolleyes: about it :nixweiss I've even kidded them about the way they put down their own "best product" but they stand firm about it. Hope I don't get anybody there in hot water by posting this...
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I had the same EXACT conversation with them as well. They recommend 476s over all their other waxes. I still use IW though along with 476s.
 
Am I the only person applying 476S by PC/Cyclo? It's a pretty quick and easy job doing it that way, hardly takes any time at all. I put it on with one and take it off with another (with MF bonnets). The machine application helps get it on very thin, and that helps make it easy to buff off (especially easy if you let the machine do the buffing ;) ).
 
Accumulator said:
Am I the only person applying 476S by PC/Cyclo? It's a pretty quick and easy job doing it that way, hardly takes any time at all. I put it on with one and take it off with another (with MF bonnets). The machine application helps get it on very thin, and that helps make it easy to buff off (especially easy if you let the machine do the buffing ;) ).
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Accumulator,



How do you get the 476S on the pad? I've tried using the stuff with the PC, and it is so hard that I cannot get to spread on the pad. The method I used was to scrape it out of the can with a butter knife. Putting the can in the sun softened it up a bit, but not enough.



Anyway, your suggestion would be appreciated.
 
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