Coatings vs. Standard LSP'S discussion

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Mix 4 parts 105 with 1 part 601...that is key. I dried car with Aquawax after every wash. I did whole car before removing, but you can do panel by panel. There are lots of DG 105 posts on application. Another great sealant is FK1000p. Its very coating like in terms of self cleaning. Sonax PNS imo actually sheets water better than the coatings I tried. If you're ok with ease of use and 6-9 months of protection, there are many great super sealants.
 
silverfox said:
I'm happy for me too. Too bad the subject went off course. There is no arguing that some coatings may offer better protection than other LSPs. However, the key word is "may" given all the prep work coatings require and all the other variables that must be correct as well..temp, humidity, polish, type of paint, user experience, etc...or the results will not be any better and maybe worse than non coated paint. For what coatings cost, and given the variables that must be spot on to get a good result, they are certainly not the end all and be all. Have a wonderful day!
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I don't know how different Zaino is from DG, but I used to run into issues with Zaino where it was difficult to remove. But I can assure you, that the top rated coating do offer superior protection - there is no maybe. They are designed to be much better. And I see that your "set it and forget it" LSP isn't as simple as you try to make it sound like - You have to mix 105 with 601, 4:1, and then you top that with Aquawax. Prepping the paint is still the same chore as if you were to use a coating.

DURABILITY: Your 6-9 months protection is very weather/color dependent. A black finish in Arizona will not last as long as a white car in Tennessee. So if some one chooses to have their vehicle coated for these very reasons, it makes perfect sense.

And of course, the protection doesn't just provide the same level for lets say 6 months and just falls off overnight. Right?
 
I'll jump back in even though this horse is well dead by now. beatdeadhorse.gif (borrowed cause I like it!)

In the spring, I washed, clayed (didn't need to polish) and applied a coat of DG 105/601 (for the AIO), then two coats of DG 111/601 (sealant). Both are very easily removed. I often (but not always) top with Aquawax after washes.
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Wears like iron. I will likely repeat the process in the fall to ensure protection for our harsh NE winters with ample SALT.

HOWEVER, at this point in the thread, I think comparing Duragloss sealant to Opti Coat Pro is somewhat pointless. Yes I choose to apply twice a year, but I'm happy with the durability, protection and shine.
You indicated that an Opti Coat Pro installation would cost around $1000 vs. the $50-$100/year I spend on Duragloss sealant and supplies.
No comparison.

Thomas Dekany said:
I don't know how different Zaino is from DG, but I used to run into issues with Zaino where it was difficult to remove. But I can assure you, that the top rated coating do offer superior protection - there is no maybe. They are designed to be much better. And I see that your "set it and forget it" LSP isn't as simple as you try to make it sound like - You have to mix 105 with 601, 4:1, and then you top that with Aquawax. Prepping the paint is still the same chore as if you were to use a coating.

DURABILITY: Your 6-9 months protection is very weather/color dependent. A black finish in Arizona will not last as long as a white car in Tennessee. So if some one chooses to have their vehicle coated for these very reasons, it makes perfect sense.

And of course, the protection doesn't just provide the same level for lets say 6 months and just falls off overnight. Right?
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But Optimum Gloss Coat only costs $70...excuse now? I loved Zaino back in the day, but the ease of application (no waiting to haze then buff off, etc) of Gloss Coat and its Zaino like looks make it an easy choice. No comparison.

Im no Optimum fanboy. I use IUDJ for Rinseless, CarPro Reset for traditional washes. CarPro BOA and Microfiber Madness m/f's, Optimum Hyper Spray Polish, Meguairs M101, M105, M205, Menzerna SF4000 and FG400, Infinite Purpose Cleaner. Pads from Buff & Shine and Meguairs. Numerous other items but I think my point has been made. I have ZERO affiliation to any one company. Just to my personal tastes and opinions.

Go with what makes your time and effort pay off in the end.
 
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Does anyone choose not to use coatings because it takes the fun out of trying new products?
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I personally don't use coatings all that much. Mainly because I do dealer work and there's not a need. And my main retail client is a huge car collector and there's also not a need to coat his cars as they aren't driven. On those I use a combo of Nitro Seal & Zaino with some Nuba here and there. But when I coat cars (3-5 per month) I strictly use Opti-Coat.
 
I enjoy spending time at church, with the family, and football. Thank God coatings protect well and show off the labors of your polishing for a long time. Frees up time to do more of those things and regularly maintain the car while not compromising in any categories (gloss, etc).
 
JSFM35X said:
You can take Mikes word here as gospel on Gyeon and Kamikaze products. There's nobody I know of that uses more of them on a daily basis. On top of that he has it on his own car.
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I had looked around a lot on their infinity wax, but only saw 1 review, still don't know how it would do against spotting
 
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