Coating that have stopped beading.......

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JSFM35X

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So today we had a 60 degree day in NY and I decided to take advantage of it. I had posted that my 2 opticoated 2.0 vehicles and 1 GTech EVO v2 vehicles had stopped beading like new and infact the water was sitting flat on the paint.

It was recommended that I wash the coated cars with a strong APC or reset. I pressure washed the cars used P21s TAW straight to mist a fine spray over the entire car. I used a wash MIT asm rinse bucket to clean each panel.

After washing I rinsed very well. The beading was still poor. I have had the coating on the opti coated cars since July 2012 and the EXO 2 week less. They still protect as the cars clean up extremely well. Same with the wheels.

I did not have the time to winterized them so I decided to Permanon platinum all three. It will be my winter protection and I will re coat after the winter.

I should also note I Clayed the good of the Subaru to see if that would revive the opti coating but it did not. I iron xed one car and that did not bring it back either.

2 years is a great length of time to have a coating bead and it just petered out a few weeks ago. I like them and they are far better than the waxes and sealants I used in my past. I am excited for what comes next. I really hope Permanon makes a coating. Spray on hose off. It's a great product, but i don't get the longevity I would expect for the price point.
 
Bummer.

The OCP on my car had fallen off a little at the 2yr mark, but it was still showing good signs of life.
 
Good to see you over here.

I would say it was my application or prep but even the car done by David Saunders had the same time frame. Mine was 2.0 was your pro?

RaskyR1 said:
Bummer.

The OCP on my car had fallen off a little at the 2yr mark, but it was still showing good signs of life.
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JSFM35X said:
It's weird the beading is gone but it cleans up so easily. Drying is a pain
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I think what happened with coatings is that it isn't as easy to apply as a wax or sealant, and because of it, the coating suffers. Being a pro, doesn't mean that he is applying it correctly. Look for it, you will see many "pros" brag about how fast they are able to apply OC. Then down the road they complain that the product sucks.
 
tdekany said:
That is not Opti Coat 2.0:welcome:
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Oh I see what happened 2.0 was discontinued and this is what they replaced it with.

Anyways I read whole thread that said 2.0 wasnt lasting more then a couple years .I dont remember the forum but now I cant find it.I think it was at the other Autopia forum and now the site is down.

I see it was'designed' to be permanant but was reading different experiences with it.
 
ca.detailchick said:
Oh I see what happened 2.0 was discontinued and this is what they replaced it with.

Anyways I read whole thread that said 2.0 wasnt lasting more then a couple years .I dont remember the forum but now I cant find it.I think it was at the other Autopia forum and now the site is down.

I see it was'designed' to be permanant but was reading different experiences with it.
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The different "experiences" came from improper prep/application. I guess you didn't see the posts over the years where OC 2.0 was on years after.
 
tdekany said:
The different "experiences" came from improper prep/application. I guess you didn't see the posts over the years where OC 2.0 was on years after.
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Not really.......have for the pro version though.But I see they only warranty it for 5 years now and not lifetime?(pro version)

How long have you gotten from the 2.0?Have you used the 2.0?

For the record I have not used either.
 
i think two years is good for anything. it's always fun trying something new and it might even be better than what you had before.:bigups
 
Reset shampoo, apc wash, dawn wash, IRonX, claybar will all help to deep clean a longterm coating. Maintenance is a hugely underrated aspect of coating longevity... or more like should be pushed way more for everyday customers.
 
I had 2.0 on my own car nearly 3 years before redoing my car and putting Gloss Coat on it. Didn't really need to for the protection but because after having my timing belt, front axles and a transmission rebuild over those three years had left some light marring on my front fenders. Marring that really only I noticed but it bugged me. And I had Gloss Coat...something new to play with.

Regular proper washing is the key to maintaining coatings assuming they are applied properly. I know there was at least one detailing bragging how he could coat a car with just 2-3 cc's of product. And of course, a year down the road, he had unhappy customers because he hadn't used enough product on their cars.
 
Scottwax said:
I had 2.0 on my own car nearly 3 years before redoing my car and putting Gloss Coat on it. Didn't really need to for the protection but because after having my timing belt, front axles and a transmission rebuild over those three years had left some light marring on my front fenders. Marring that really only I noticed but it bugged me. And I had Gloss Coat...something new to play with.

Regular proper washing is the key to maintaining coatings assuming they are applied properly. I know there was at least one detailing bragging how he could coat a car with just 2-3 cc's of product. And of course, a year down the road, he had unhappy customers because he hadn't used enough product on their cars.
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Is the gloss coat better than the 2.0 as far as looks?
 
I used about 1/2-3/4 of the syringe to do my car. And when I say I, I really mean David Saunders applied 90% of the car. So I am sure it was don't properly. The beading dropped off at 2 years and it still cleans up well, but is a pain to dry. I am an Opticoat fan. I was told by Dr. g to clay it, did that, then to wash with an APC did that. I was not able to revive the beading properties. In all fairness the GTech EXO petered out at 2 years as well.

Seems like 2 years is the new limit on coatings. I am sure a new technology will come out sooner or later to give super hydrophobic, mar resistant LSPs a reality.

Scottwax said:
I had 2.0 on my own car nearly 3 years before redoing my car and putting Gloss Coat on it. Didn't really need to for the protection but because after having my timing belt, front axles and a transmission rebuild over those three years had left some light marring on my front fenders. Marring that really only I noticed but it bugged me. And I had Gloss Coat...something new to play with.

Regular proper washing is the key to maintaining coatings assuming they are applied properly. I know there was at least one detailing bragging how he could coat a car with just 2-3 cc's of product. And of course, a year down the road, he had unhappy customers because he hadn't used enough product on their cars.
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