Clay Over Wax

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Does "clay baring" have any effect on the existng wax?

Does anyone "clay" often, even though you have a good layer (s) of wax? Just currious.........

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Clay remove wax?!??!?! I learned different. I thought to remove wax you could use a cutting polish or Dawn. Unless I"m mistaken here!?!?!?,,,,,,,91
 
Dawn or abrasives will remove wax also, but so will claying. Clay is abrasive, that's why you can buy it in different "cuts">
 
I agree with Showroom, anytime you have clayed, its optimal to reseal or wax......
 
Claying is suppose to be like this but this picture didn't mention about wax, only clear coat.



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After claying



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*MY* experience has been that *GENTLE* claying does NOT remove an appreciable amount of wax or sealant. I spot-clay all the time, with almost every wash, and my SG still lasts over 8 months, even on the areas that get clayed all the time, and my other forms of protection all last many months also. As long as I'm very gentle about it (and that's the key), it just doesn't remove it. It's not like I wouldn't notice, so I just :confused: this idea that claying removes protection. Not intending to be argumentative, but I just don't understand... DOES it remove OTHER PEOPLE'S protection? If so, then THOSE experiences/observations and conclusions would be just as valid as mine.



Examples of my experiences:



The last time Accumulatorette took a long summer roadtrip in her A8 it came back with a LOT of bugs on the leading surfaces. I clayed them off while washing and the wax (3M Showcar paste) was beading and shining just as it did before she left.



The rocker panels and areas behind the wheels of our MPV get clayed all the time (tar, etc.) yet they kept beading (and looking great) for a *YEAR* after the last time I applied (multiple coats of) SG and Meguiar's #16. I've since clayed it several MORE times, still doesn't need rewaxed.



Perhaps my experiences are unique, but *I* have no reason to believe that clay strips protection. :nixweiss
 
what's your definition of "GENTLE"... I was under the assumption that when claying any paint surface, the clay should just glide gently without any additional pressure...
 
kg/cm² said:
what's your definition of "GENTLE"... I was under the assumption that when claying any paint surface, the clay should just glide gently without any additional pressure...
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THAT'S my definition of gentle claying- doing it the "right" way (and with plenty of lube). No marring, no removal of protection, no problems. Sometimes, though, some additional pressure IS (or SEEMS to be) needed to remove stubborn contaminants; but then you're not, IMO, being "gentle" any more and you might very well strip off protection (and mar the finish).



I get the feeling that a lot of people don't always clay "properly"/gently enough, hence all the concerns with stripping/marring/etc. There ARE a LOT of posts about problems people attribute to claying their vehicles so I recognize that there's a LOT of "YMMV" with claying. Just SO many variables, I suppose :nixweiss
 
I basicly have to agree with Accumulator. I have been claying & waxing the same way for years. I've always been curious about the subject though. I wanted to hear some open oppinions on the topic. My beading always seems to degress with time, not because I just clayed.Ofcourse I always lay down a layer of wax after claying anyway. If infact the clay is removing the wax, would there not be major amounts of wax residue being picked by the clay and ending up in the bar itself? Just a theory.
 
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