imported_FMINUS
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felthove said:
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Chemical Guys Jetseal WOW
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GlossyTundra
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How much do you want for 16oz of Jetseal?
Junebug
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JD - you may have broke his heart but you sure saved his back! I know it's fun to rub on your car all day, but if you're just taking two steps forward and one step back, why do it? Those first pics of that Beemer were fantastic! Why screw with that?!
TortoiseAWD
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Let me reiterate JDookie's question: Are you selling this product, or giving away samples? If giving them away, what's the source? Are you financially involved with CG in any way?orngez said:
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mgm2003
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orngez said:
Can you describe how you've tested/evaluated the durability of this product?
JasonD
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FMINUS said:
Trust me, I fully understand! :waxing:
ZoranC said:
The correct answer to whether you should top jetseal with wax or not, is purely user preference. The reason *I* wouldn't top it with a wax is because, imo, it would reduce the reflectivity of the jetseal, which has perfectly flat and optically clear (like glass) finish. Now, again, this comes down to user preference because you may not like so much reflectivity, and are just using jetseal for the durability benefits alone. If this is the case, by all means, top all you want.
All I know is that BMW looks insane, and I don't know if you could get much better than that!
As far as using jetseal and WMF together, I'm not sure that I would do that. The point of WMF (from what I understand) is that it is a nice one step type product that cleans, fills, and protects all in one step leaving a wet mirror *like* finish at the end. This product sounds great if you don't feel like polishing out defects or doing a multi-step process. The thing is, just like any other one step product, it removes most of any previous layers that were on the paint, which is part of the paint cleaning process. This part of the process may remove some or most of any previously applied layer of jetseal.
On the other hand, if you apply jetseal *after* WMF, I would be concerned about bonding issues which would then have me concerned about durability, and then what's the point?
So, end result, in my honest opinion, I wouldn't use them together. This, to me, is an apples and oranges product selection. There are great uses for both products, just don't think they would go all that well together.
JuneBug said:
Exactly!! :shocked
crew219 said:
Why not? What's the difference?
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imported_memnuts
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orngez said:FMINUS- I knew you would like the jetseal109
...feel free to pm me if you guys want 16oz bottles of the stuff...hands down amazing looking stuff...and the durability is awesome...imo beats zaino and no stupid mixing involved...1/2 oz does my entire 350z....
Please justify your personal durability claims. I was under the impressive that this product was just released. How long have you had this product "alone" on your test bed?
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imported_memnuts
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Sorry John 
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I didn't see your post.
Great minds work alike.
I wish he took advantage of all that bright Sunlight.
Is this CG's version of ReJex?? :nixweiss Description sounds the same.
RejeX was originally developed for the Air Force to keep turbine exhaust gas residue from sticking to aircraft...
RejeX is the "missing link" you have been looking for when it comes to affordable, durable, long-lasting protection for your car, truck, boat, RV, airplane or motorcycle!
RejeX PROTECTS AND BEAUTIFIES WITH ITS HIGH REFLECTIVITY: painted metal, glass, acrylic, gel coat, fiberglass, glossy plastic and polished metal surfaces.
"jetSEAL109 is a unique anti-corrosion sealant developed to provide the finest protection available for paint, fiberglass, aluminum, chrome, alloy metals, and other substrates. Developed exclusively for the aerospace industry, jetSEAL109 was developed to provide the ultimate protection from the harshest environmental elements. jetSEAL109 is now available for automobiles in the same nano-tech ultra durable consistency. jetSEAL109 bonds with the exterior of your auto giving it a mirror-like wet finish that is virtually impenetrable. jetSEAL109 is not a wax, polish, or Teflon. jetSEAL109 is an organically modified Sealant bonded with an acrylic crystalline at a nano-tech scale allowing it to bond to paint molecularly delivering a durable, glass-like shield."
.I didn't see your post.
Great minds work alike.
I wish he took advantage of all that bright Sunlight.
Is this CG's version of ReJex?? :nixweiss Description sounds the same.
RejeX was originally developed for the Air Force to keep turbine exhaust gas residue from sticking to aircraft...
RejeX is the "missing link" you have been looking for when it comes to affordable, durable, long-lasting protection for your car, truck, boat, RV, airplane or motorcycle!
RejeX PROTECTS AND BEAUTIFIES WITH ITS HIGH REFLECTIVITY: painted metal, glass, acrylic, gel coat, fiberglass, glossy plastic and polished metal surfaces.
"jetSEAL109 is a unique anti-corrosion sealant developed to provide the finest protection available for paint, fiberglass, aluminum, chrome, alloy metals, and other substrates. Developed exclusively for the aerospace industry, jetSEAL109 was developed to provide the ultimate protection from the harshest environmental elements. jetSEAL109 is now available for automobiles in the same nano-tech ultra durable consistency. jetSEAL109 bonds with the exterior of your auto giving it a mirror-like wet finish that is virtually impenetrable. jetSEAL109 is not a wax, polish, or Teflon. jetSEAL109 is an organically modified Sealant bonded with an acrylic crystalline at a nano-tech scale allowing it to bond to paint molecularly delivering a durable, glass-like shield."
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JasonD
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crew219 said:
Oh, okay, lol. I thought we missed something big. In this respect, you are correct, they are not the same.
The reason I said you could say they are alike is because they all supposedly provide this hard "glass-like" protective shield.
lambostealth
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I've had it for nearly 4 months on my buddies bikes (R1, Aprillia, Ninja6R), they feel and look like I just did them yesterday. Flake/pearl pop is amazing, and the feel is just rediculously slick.
As far as application, I would compre it DIRECTLY to Zaino. Goes on and off exactly the same, very easy.
I'm going to wash my car tonight, it has been wearing Jetseal for one month with NOTHING done in between washes. Tonight I will do a standard CG: Citrus wash, and take pics of the beading. This will show one month of durability.
As far as application, I would compre it DIRECTLY to Zaino. Goes on and off exactly the same, very easy.
I'm going to wash my car tonight, it has been wearing Jetseal for one month with NOTHING done in between washes. Tonight I will do a standard CG: Citrus wash, and take pics of the beading. This will show one month of durability.
imported_FMINUS
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Coupe said:It is a LSP
Im not using it as LSP, Im trying to say I wasnt finished, and I have not yet topped the car w a wax
imported_FMINUS
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I just talked to Paul at CG and he said that the WMF is okay to put over wax. The cleaning agents are so mild that it wont take off anything. He said it should add wetness over the finish
JDookie said:
Thank you for the explanation of logic behind your comment, it makes absolute sense to me and it is now perfectly clear to me how they fit in big picture.
JDookie said:
Hmmmm, I see your point and I will definitely have to ask them are there bonding issues. Until we know the answer, even if durability is reduced what is your guess, would jetSeal over WMF result in higher shine? I am sooo tempted to try that on my black Supra I am prepping for sale and it is bling bling that would be buyers like.
JasonD
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ZoranC said:
Until we get some time under our belts using these new products, everything up to that point will be educated guesswork and speculation so please keep that in mind. I wish CG's would become a sponsor, and then we could just ask them directly here on the forum.
Anyway, if bonding issues weren't an issue, yes, I think topping WMF with jetseal would provide a higher shine, but that's because I am thinking jetseal produces a higher shine than WMF in any situation. Again, I haven't tried them yet, so I am basing this on the description on the labels, and other info I have received from various sources.
Jetseal is a dedicated, rock-hard protectant that is designed to produce the highest shine possible.
WMF is a glaze which does double duty as both a glaze, and lsp. FMINUS has contacted Paul at CG's and they have corrected us on the fact that WMF is very weak in the paint cleaning dept.
FMINUS said:
Jetseal isn't a wax though.
orngez said:FMINUS- I knew you would like the jetseal109
...feel free to pm me if you guys want 16oz bottles of the stuff...hands down amazing looking stuff...and the durability is awesome...imo beats zaino and no stupid mixing involved...1/2 oz does my entire 350z....
Check your PMs.