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Let me edit/clarify..........I have and use and LOVE the MF towels that I got from Premium, I found the info below on a different site. Can anyone comment on the quality of the product? How do they compare to the ones Dwayne sells? How do you know a good MF from a low quality one?


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About those MFs. All MFs are not created equal. Some are very poor quality, so be careful what you buy. I bought some locally (3 for about $6) and they are not nearly the quality as the ones I have received from Premium.
 
Pakshack and autofiber.com have some nice MF towels I have alot of MF towels from Viper and CMA when I got my order in the spring.
 
Okay so has anybody actually bought the towels in question? The reason I ask is they got a good review on another board I post on.
 
Greetings all,

I currently own a variety (14 towels - 9 different styles/sizes) of the MF toweling products offered by Vapor Clean. I like them all. I have a wide variety of MF towels (80+) from several different vendors (13). I really can't say that I have bad towel (including the much mailgned NicSand towels) as they all have a place in my cleaning regimes household and automotive.
 
So who can give the low-down on MF towel quality. It seems that I read (on the forum here) that the split-end type of towels are inferior to the full loop type. Is that correct? How does one tell the difference? I have some towels that I bought at a local parts store and I have some from Dwayne at premium (Viper I think). The ones from premium are of much better quality. I don't have any other reference point.
 
rt,

I believe you are correct. The "loops" are superior to the split end towels. However, I believe there is much more to a high quality MF towel than that.

Anyhow, I guess the best way to find the highest quality towels is to ask around. People who use them frequently pretty much know which ones are good, and which one to stay away from. A pro detailer, or enthusiast is not going to stick with a towel that scratches, or causes swirls.

Keep in mind that not all MF towels are made of synthetics. I see a trend starting toward some MF towels made out of natural fibers.
 
Yeah I am new to MF towels (all things considered). Ive seen some towels not stay together after 2-4 wash cycles.
 
Boss-
I'm not trying to stir up trouble but my understanding of microfiber is that they must be synthetic and not natural. What natural fibers are they using? Microfiber is supposed to be of particular diameter (tiny like 10 micrometers or something). I am aware that they are predominantly produced from two polymers: polyamide and polyester of various blends. I also understand that they must be split fiber and that there are many ways to do this, some of which stink and hence the big quality difference. Non-split microfiber is actually water proof and is used for fabrics like those stain-defender khaki pants. I also was told that the way microfiber is assembled like fiber density and weave pattern makes alters their property as a cloth like durability, softness, water absorbtion, etc.
I am not in the microfiber business so I don't claim to be an expert (or know anything for that matter). I'd love to hear thoughts on these things I've been told.
Thanks all.
 
I read it Boss and it's the same hype as any other mf mfg. ....those will scratch and ours won't.....

Feel and durability are what most people are looking for...I have mf over 3 years old as soft as new ones and they never linted...then I've bought some store ones that started soft , then lost it after 15-20 washings and linted from day one and continue to lint. those of course are for door jambs and wheels:D

Microfiber as it was introduced to the vehicle enthusiasts market were a blend of Polyester and Polyamide ...80/20 or 70/30 ...
I have some that are 100% Polyamide and they are soft and smooth as butter...can be machine washed and get softer with each washing....they do lint a little though...but for final buffing ..they are awesome...

I have a feeling this contoversy will continue from mfg to mfg and everyone should use what they like best;)
 
Poorboy,

I agree, but this was not a question of what will scratch, or won't scratch, it's was a question of the definition of Microfiber towels? Is a "Microfiber" only limited to synthetics?

At another highly publicized detailing site, they are also pushing a "NEW" buffing cloth that is supposed to be far superior to any previous MF towel for final buff, and QDing. Guess what it's made from................... natural fibers! ;)

I love this stuff................... it's amazing how we sometimes come full circle! It wouldn't surpise me, that in a couple of years, we will be raving about cotton MF towels (or natural fiber if you wish)!
 
The DFTowel Concours is counted in my collection. It is probably the softest toweling product I have, MF or 100% cotton. Not only is the towel soft, but the construction is among the very best. I personally reserve my DFT as a replacement for a CCD.

It has been my experience that any towel, MF or 100% cotton, can produce scratches if used incorrectly. This tested on a test CD.

There are many good MF towels, a few great ones, and even fewer poor ones. My suggestion would be seek out several vendors and purchase a few of their towels. The truly good (or great) towels you will identify as the ones you reach for when it's time for your final buffing and QD work.
 
Hey Boss-
Thanks for the info. I found it informative. You are right in that Microfiber is a definition of fiber size alone and not fiber composition. What I was implying is that to produce a fiber that small requires synthetic chemistry. If they occured naturally, we'd have had MF towels for decades and decades. Whether the material is natural (cotton or cellulose) or synthetic (polyester, polyamide, nylon) the fiber had to be synthesized. Cellulose is made from polymerizing glucose (blood sugar). It give structural rigidity to plants and trees! Wool is also natural and many newer people will shudder to think about using it for a final buff, but I bet a lot of oldschool guys can remember using it for final buffing in the past. What I am getting at is that it's not the fiber but it's applied to the surface. This is true of any material.

For example:
Granite is cut with water

Carbide (which is used to cut high speed steel) is cut with... RUBBER!

So like you said we have come around full circle and I still lack an answer. I guess I have to get my wallet out, buy a towel from everybody, and see what I get. I too have suffered from cheap MF towels from local chain stores (I see a trend here!).

In an effort to save everybody some money, I was hoping we might objectively review towels purchased from various vendors.
Any takers? I can see a couple votes for DFConcours and Dwayne's towels. Back to my original quesiton:
Has anyone purchased VaporClean towels mentioned on the first post or two?
Thanks all.
 
I vote for rhillstr to take out his wallet and by one of every MF he can find, then report back the results to the forum? Do I have a second?!:D

Nah, he'd probably charge for the report just like that wax report.;)

Maybe we can start off a list of the good, the bad and the ugly. All my towels have the annoying little white tag with the manufacturers name on it. They are all pretty new also.

But,...

Viper=Good
Lake Country=Good
plain janes from auto store=kinda ugly

I read somewhere to avoid the MFs made in Korea, but all mine say made in Korea (except Lake Country I think). Go figure that one.

Hey, I hit 150 posts! Whoohoooh! Everybody stop at my house tonight for a celebratory beer! Problem is, I still don't know much more than "wax on, wax off!":D
 
I posed this same question about the same site last year sometime(I think). With very little response, I ordered the sampler pack. IMO they are nice towels, they are made in Korea and feel great. They have also held up really well since I purchased them(they also never linted).

I also have the forest green towels from Dwayne and let me just say this, when I go for a towel for final buffing I always reach for them. Does this mean they are better? I don't know, they both seem to be high quality but, I just like knowing that I purchased my MF from people who sell them for automotive detailing purposes.
 
Mr. Clean said:
The DFTowel Concours is counted in my collection. It is probably the softest toweling product I have, MF or 100% cotton. Not only is the towel soft, but the construction is among the very best. I personally reserve my DFT as a replacement for a CCD.
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Mr. Clean,

That's great to hear, as I was planning on adding a few of these, or the Concours Buffing towels to my ever growing pile of towels.
 
Actually I vote for Boss to get all these towels....he's a great reviewer and can be very critical....get him and Natty together and I bet you can't put anything past that Duo...banjo playing:D
 
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