Carnuba & Microfiber?

Well,(from what I understand) early MF had hooked fiber and was pretty aggressive at removing products(remember how they would stick to rough hands). The newer MF has a split type of fiber that is probably less aggressive.
 
Yes, True for the new Mf but I used one of the the old Perfect shine concourse detailing clothes it is made of cotton. It did not pick up the wax nearly as well as a micro fiber, I had to go over the spot several times. But this is just what Zymol says is great about their new Micor wipes. Their made of rubber and push wax back into the paint and just remove the excess.



Then you go back after a half hour or so when the wax is really cured and buff it like crazy. It does not matter what you use then as the wax is already hardended.



Try it with cotton and see if you don't get a thicker wax coating like I did.
 
For removing LSP residue, I've compared cotton (the old Koala towels, the soft cotton from Emmons Coachworks, and the reserged Charismas that used to be all the rage), "natural fiber MF" (i.e., CBTs/DFTs), and various MFs, plush and not, including MF bonnets used via machine.



There was *NEVER* any difference with regard to looks or durability. None. With some products (e.g., too-thick #16) cotton worked a little easier but the end result was always the same.
 
Surely a little commonsense is in order here. How many thousands of detailers have waxed tens of thousands of cars over the past five years? Have any reported problems with removing the wax from their vehicles? Surely if this was a real problem, then we would have heard all about it by now from multiple sources.



I remember coming across the Top of the Line website several months ago and noted their instruction not to use microfiber towels. I suppose there is only one way to test their claim, and that is for someone to buy their premium wax and wipe it off with a microfiber towel and see if he ends up with a wax-free surface. Any takers?



I read so much nonsense on the internet. I even believe some of it, at least for a time. But I'm not buying this, not until I see some real evidence. So far, all we have is hearsay.



I'm with Accumulator on this one.
 
akimel said:
...I remember coming across the Top of the Line website several months ago and noted their instruction not to use microfiber towels..



I really like Irene at TOL, I've done business with her since forever. I simply *hate* calling her company out on something like this...but IME (which is fairly extensive), it's just not so.



They also have recommended (only) using a suede-style MF for this. While I really *do* like those suede-style MFs for buffing off sealants, it's not like they make any difference when buffing off waxes.



Whenever I did a test on this stuff, I always had to go gack and check my notes to see which half of which panel(s) were done which way. Why? Because there was never any discernable difference.



OK...*maybe* if you rubbed rubbed rubbed for ages and ages the MF would buff off more of the "desired" wax residue. Maybe. So maybe it's theoretically viable in a certain context. But as for being a practical consideration, I'll go by my experiences.
 
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