Car Dealership Detailing In Action!

[Dan]

Ron,



Its one this to do the work and get a paycheck. Its another to ham it up and throw it on youtube.

 

[C. Charles Hahn]

Ron,



Its one this to do the work and get a paycheck. Its another to ham it up and throw it on youtube.

:werd: This guy obviously takes "pride" in what he is doing, and he doesn't appear to realize he's doing it wrong.

 

[mikenap]

:werd: This guy obviously takes "pride" in what he is doing, and he doesn't appear to realize he's doing it wrong.

Exactly. Look at all the "clay through the wax" garbage he spews.

 

[VW 91]

Exactly. Look at all the "clay through the wax" garbage he spews.

Or how he goes on to say that the paint is perfect when in reality it is trashed underneath. I understand he is trying to make a paycheck, and see the "business" side of it, but this man seems almost delusional as he thinks that the paint is *really* 100% defect free when he's done.

 

[imported_paintxpert]

Good thing the Sun was not out!!!! Wool pad with no clue. This car has got to be loaded with wheel marks!!! My Dad was the meat-cutter in our family! This guy should join the imalgumated meat -cutters union. Where did he learn this technique???

 

[Bert]

Ron,





Its one this to do the work and get a paycheck. Its another to ham it up and throw it on youtube.

My guess is this guy was trained this way and doesn't realize the harm he is doing and assumes he is doing a good job.

 

[Junebug]

I know body shops have changed and evolved since I worked at one (part time after school) but there seems to still be that buff and glaze technique that lives on today. The painters I worked with buffed out fresh paint with wool and rocks in the bottle compound and I would go behind with Pink Glaze (smelled like cat piss) we called it Pink Panther Piss, but it would fill in and make that paint look beautiful. Is it still around today or a variation of it? I would say yes, ask my dentist that just flew to Washington DC to buy his wife a pre-owned E350 - balck of course, and let him tell you what he found AFTER a couple washes! I may be wrong, but I haven't found a dealer that had a detail shop that was worth 2 cents, like Grumpy says - it's all about turn around time.

 

[imported_DetailDan]

I know body shops have changed and evolved since I worked at one (part time after school) but there seems to still be that buff and glaze technique that lives on today. The painters I worked with buffed out fresh paint with wool and rocks in the bottle compound and I would go behind with Pink Glaze (smelled like cat piss) we called it Pink Panther Piss, but it would fill in and make that paint look beautiful. Is it still around today or a variation of it? I would say yes, ask my dentist that just flew to Washington DC to buy his wife a pre-owned E350 - balck of course, and let him tell you what he found AFTER a couple washes! I may be wrong, but I haven't found a dealer that had a detail shop that was worth 2 cents, like Grumpy says - it's all about turn around time.

Sorry to hear about that, I could have inspected it for him first.

 

[Ron Ketcham]

I never watched the video, I have known, seen, tried to teach etc, idiots like him for decades.

Didn't feel I needed to watch the same idiotic crap again.

So, I watched it, OH THE HORROR!!!!

Once again, another case for my quest to have some bleach put in the gene pool!!!!!

Grumpy

 

[RaskyR1]

Not to defend the "work" that all are throwing down on, however there is a total "missing" of why such takes place.

Most here have not a "clue" of how a new car or used car dealership works, what management people are in place, how those who are management are under the "gun" of the daily operating control for each day, how penny's are dollars to these people.

They hire minmum wage employees and pound their butts everyday to "get the iron out the door and on the lot!".

These who are hired are also fired, daily, if they don't meet the "dollar figure per vehicle", if they butt heads with the "manager" of the new car or used car department, you know "the suits"!

Don't knock those who do the work, and yes, most don't have a clue of what most here know, but they "need a paycheck", no matter how small, so they do what they are told to do, to get the check.

Think about this before you say things about the person doing the job.

Instead, consider the business side of this and that the "suit" is who you should be addressing your opinions towards.

Grumpy

Ron,



Its one this to do the work and get a paycheck. Its another to ham it up and throw it on youtube.

Agreed.



Ron, I think most of us here are well aware of how those places are run (most of us having started there). The problem is that he puts up tons of these videos on Youtube opening the door for others new to detailing to adapt his poor techniques. He's well aware that we disagree with his techniques and he simply chooses not to listen to the advice given to him and he even mocks us in a way. If you watch enough of his videos you'll see what we mean.

 

[Ron Ketcham]

I'll pass on watching anymore of that idiot.

Hard on my old blood pressure and since I don't look at pictures of my ex-wives, why would I watch him?

LOL!

Grumpy

 

[Bill D]

I'll pass on watching anymore of that idiot.

Hard on my old blood pressure and since I don't look at pictures of my ex-wives, why would I watch him?

LOL!

Grumpy

:chuckle: :xyxthumbs :chuckle:

 

[Junebug]

+1 on the ex-wife thing. I run into some of her family from time to time, funny how they still treat me with respect. Hey, I didn't walk out, she did (Thank God!) LOL

 

[Jeff Suggs]

First of all salpac, how are you an expert ? none of you guys have any videos that demonstrate your work. I have over 160 on Youtube, Vimeo, dailymotion, just to mention a few. I am also the only overspray removal specialist on the planet that has over 250 Google ads and websites from all over the world, like Russia, China, Dubai, Japan, and many other countries that feature my videos. You boys should really do your research. I am the only person in this business that has demonstration videos of auto trim & molding repair videos. "America has enough **** talkers we need some do-ers"

 

[Jeff Suggs]

B-C 2 is not a filling glaze, it is a wax. I use it to clay though when removing overspray. This cuts down on the friction. The noise you may hear when claying is scuffing the clear coat. You should consider trying it the next time you are using the clay bar. I mix some ivory dish washing liquid with it so that the clay bar will not stick.

 

[Jeff Suggs]

RaskyRi let me ask you something, how would you remove Protective & marine coating overspray with your little clay bar? Also how would you or anyone you may know like salpac remove overspray if the clay bar had never been invented? You are the Tool because the only thing you have in your bag of tricks to remove overspray is a clay bar and a tube of wax. I bet you and your buddies all think you overspray removal specialist. That is Joke and so are you.

 

[C. Charles Hahn]

First of all salpac, how are you an expert ? none of you guys have any videos that demonstrate your work. I have over 160 on Youtube, Vimeo, dailymotion, just to mention a few. I am also the only overspray removal specialist on the planet that has over 250 Google ads and websites from all over the world, like Russia, China, Dubai, Japan, and many other countries that feature my videos. You boys should really do your research. I am the only person in this business that has demonstration videos of auto trim & molding repair videos. "America has enough **** talkers we need some do-ers"

So you upload videos on public websites and put up a bunch of Google ads. How exactly does that translate to you knowing what you're doing?



I can make a demonstration video of how to cut someone's hair; would you consider me an expert at giving an "uptown fade" if I did, even when the guy comes out the other end looking like this?

 

[mikenap]

RaskyRi let me ask you something, how would you remove Protective & marine coating overspray with your little clay bar? Also how would you or anyone you may know like salpac remove overspray if the clay bar had never been invented? You are the Tool because the only thing you have in your bag of tricks to remove overspray is a clay bar and a tube of wax. I bet you and your buddies all think you overspray removal specialist. That is Joke and so are you.

You're on a detailing forum, and calling one of the best professional detailers around a joke. At the same time, many other PROFESSIONAL DETAILERS ON THIS DETAILING FORUM are stating that your process, while effective, is also potentially harmful to the car's paint. I'm sure I could effectively remove overspray from a car with gasoline and a match, but that doesn't make it the best way to go about it.

 

[C. Charles Hahn]

B-C 2 is not a filling glaze, it is a wax. I use it to clay though when removing overspray. This cuts down on the friction.

Cuts down on the friction, that much is true. However you should also understand that by using a "wax" to "clay through" you're significantly decreasing the effectiveness of the clay. Just like using too much clay lube (a liquid/detail spray) causes the clay to hydroplane instead of actually picking up contaminants.

The noise you may hear when claying is scuffing the clear coat.

No it's not. The noise is the clay picking up contaminants. Could those contaminants cause marring if you don't clean/knead the clay bar frequently? Sure. But the noise is not the clay "scuffing."

RaskyRi let me ask you something, how would you remove Protective & marine coating overspray with your little clay bar? Also how would you or anyone you may know like salpac remove overspray if the clay bar had never been invented? You are the Tool because the only thing you have in your bag of tricks to remove overspray is a clay bar and a tube of wax. I bet you and your buddies all think you overspray removal specialist. That is Joke and so are you.

Rasky is a joke? Wow. And you claim we need to do OUR research!

 

[imported_Larry A]

Years ago I knew a detailer that did used car for dealers. He would buff them with a rotary and wool pad , BC2, and follow with Megs #26 liquid. His cars always came out great, even after a few washes. I dont know what he uses now but he did detail a few Pebble Beach cars and Amelia Island cars.