Can SG be to thin

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04 Hemi

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I applied the Klasse twins on my truck and the AIO worked great, but my question is with the SG i was applying it with a damp foam pad, and since everyone says the thinner the better, but when i did, i could not tell the difference if i was putting SG or taking it of when i passed the foam pad. I want to hear what you guys think.



P.S.

Hopefully i can figure out how to put picks because the results i got with AIO was just amazing.
 
I never dampen the SG applicator, well, except with the SG itself.



I put the SG on so thin I have to go by feel, you can't see it on the paint. You should be able to feel the SG on areas where you've already applied it, they'll be different/slipperier than the areas you haven't done yet. This is assuming you're applying it to a perfectly smooth surface with no other "drag". Work very methodically so you don't miss any areas.



FWIW, I've been using the same bottle of SG for about five years. Many, many applications and a few spills :o There is still probably 1/2-2/3 of the bottle left. It takes less than half an ounce to do our minivan, for instance.
 
honestly, i tried using SG a couple of times and it was a *****. I did it thin... the only time it worked was when i put it that i can't even see it.



Yeah... if MUST be easier to remove if you don't put any on!!!
 
honestly, i tried using SG a couple of times and it was a *****. I did it thin... the only time it worked was when i put it that i can't even see it.



Yeah... if MUST be easier to remove if you don't put any on!!!
 
I don't get the whole Klasse SG thing - how can you be putting it on right if you can't see it, you can't be? Anything more than invisible and it's a major pain to get off - great product, must be why you need 3+ coats, to get all the bits you missed - lol! I much prefer something like WG sealant, very easy on/off plus you can actually SEE it. AIO is fine to work with though.
 
I don't get the whole Klasse SG thing - how can you be putting it on right if you can't see it, you can't be? Anything more than invisible and it's a major pain to get off - great product, must be why you need 3+ coats, to get all the bits you missed - lol! I much prefer something like WG sealant, very easy on/off plus you can actually SEE it. AIO is fine to work with though.
 
I used SG on my whole car......once. With all the other options out there, it's not worth the hassle IMHO. I get pretty similar durability from FK2180, and I like the look of 2180 better. I do use it from time to time on stuff like license plates, little metal parts, my fridge, etc. I just use it to use it up, really.
 
I used SG on my whole car......once. With all the other options out there, it's not worth the hassle IMHO. I get pretty similar durability from FK2180, and I like the look of 2180 better. I do use it from time to time on stuff like license plates, little metal parts, my fridge, etc. I just use it to use it up, really.
 
also.. it doesnt make any sense that two drops could be evenly and effectively spread throughout a whole panel. Common.. use your common sense!



AIO is awesome... but i have serious doubts about SG.
 
also.. it doesnt make any sense that two drops could be evenly and effectively spread throughout a whole panel. Common.. use your common sense!



AIO is awesome... but i have serious doubts about SG.
 
DJ Trackie said:
honestly, i tried using SG a couple of times and it was a *****. I did it thin... the only time it worked was when i put it that i can't even see it.
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Was there any problem with doing it that thin? It works fine for me that way. Only time SG has ever been tough to buff off was when I deliberately put it on thick to see what all the griping was about. It still came off without much work. I simply don't get what's tough about it :nixweiss



DJ Trackie said:
also.. it doesnt make any sense that two drops could be evenly and effectively spread throughout a whole panel. Common.. use your common sense!
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Nobody said to use "two drops" but it takes very little to cover the paint. You're working at "sealing" it at the microscopic level. Common sense tells me that if I can feel the KSG on the panel (it's easy to tell the difference between paint with KSG on it and paint without it), and the beading characteristics are uniform and long lasting, and it stays slick for a long time, then I got enough on there.



RobDon said:
I don't get the whole Klasse SG thing - how can you be putting it on right if you can't see it, you can't be? Anything more than invisible and it's a major pain to get off - great product, must be why you need 3+ coats, to get all the bits you missed - lol! I much prefer something like WG sealant, very easy on/off plus you can actually SEE it. AIO is fine to work with though.
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I prefer a number of products over Klasse too, especially UPP. But nothing I've used (never used Zaino) lasts like KSG. One coat, as thin as I apply it, lasts for months. I can assure you that I don't miss any spots ;) Just gotta be careful and methodical and you'll get complete coverage.



Applying it thicker doesn't help the durability any. All the extra gets buffed off anyhow.



KSG always looks best to me after the fourth coat. But the real reason I layer it is so I can just wash it for a long time without having to redo it unless I feel like it. And the more I build up the sacrificial layer the better.



I usually build up six layers and then just wash it; got over a year out of that on the daily driver, still beading and just starting to sheet in some places when I redid it. That's with *no* QDs and spot-claying at every wash. I apply four-six layers to wheels and they usually don't need redone until I put the snows on for the winter. Even the back sides stay nice and clean. For me, it's convenient to spend the time layering and then not do it again. For others that might not be the way to go.



Sheesh, I sound like some kind of apologist for KSG, and I don't really even like how it looks! But it lasts an incredibly long time and I always find it very easy to use. Putting another layer on the minivan is no big deal at all (just did it yesterday) and that's not a small vehicle. If you don't like it then cool, there are plenty of other products and I only use it on one of our vehicles myself. And I don't blame pros for using something different, I would too. But some of these posts sounded like they were implying that it doesn't work unless you use some difficult method or that those of us who use it don't know what we're talking about.
 
DJ Trackie said:
honestly, i tried using SG a couple of times and it was a *****. I did it thin... the only time it worked was when i put it that i can't even see it.
Click to expand...



Was there any problem with doing it that thin? It works fine for me that way. Only time SG has ever been tough to buff off was when I deliberately put it on thick to see what all the griping was about. It still came off without much work. I simply don't get what's tough about it :nixweiss



DJ Trackie said:
also.. it doesnt make any sense that two drops could be evenly and effectively spread throughout a whole panel. Common.. use your common sense!
Click to expand...



Nobody said to use "two drops" but it takes very little to cover the paint. You're working at "sealing" it at the microscopic level. Common sense tells me that if I can feel the KSG on the panel (it's easy to tell the difference between paint with KSG on it and paint without it), and the beading characteristics are uniform and long lasting, and it stays slick for a long time, then I got enough on there.



RobDon said:
I don't get the whole Klasse SG thing - how can you be putting it on right if you can't see it, you can't be? Anything more than invisible and it's a major pain to get off - great product, must be why you need 3+ coats, to get all the bits you missed - lol! I much prefer something like WG sealant, very easy on/off plus you can actually SEE it. AIO is fine to work with though.
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I prefer a number of products over Klasse too, especially UPP. But nothing I've used (never used Zaino) lasts like KSG. One coat, as thin as I apply it, lasts for months. I can assure you that I don't miss any spots ;) Just gotta be careful and methodical and you'll get complete coverage.



Applying it thicker doesn't help the durability any. All the extra gets buffed off anyhow.



KSG always looks best to me after the fourth coat. But the real reason I layer it is so I can just wash it for a long time without having to redo it unless I feel like it. And the more I build up the sacrificial layer the better.



I usually build up six layers and then just wash it; got over a year out of that on the daily driver, still beading and just starting to sheet in some places when I redid it. That's with *no* QDs and spot-claying at every wash. I apply four-six layers to wheels and they usually don't need redone until I put the snows on for the winter. Even the back sides stay nice and clean. For me, it's convenient to spend the time layering and then not do it again. For others that might not be the way to go.



Sheesh, I sound like some kind of apologist for KSG, and I don't really even like how it looks! But it lasts an incredibly long time and I always find it very easy to use. Putting another layer on the minivan is no big deal at all (just did it yesterday) and that's not a small vehicle. If you don't like it then cool, there are plenty of other products and I only use it on one of our vehicles myself. And I don't blame pros for using something different, I would too. But some of these posts sounded like they were implying that it doesn't work unless you use some difficult method or that those of us who use it don't know what we're talking about.
 
maybe it's the weather, because i can attest to the fact that it is VERY hard for me to buff off if put on too thick. I can't stress the words "very hard" enough!
 
maybe it's the weather, because i can attest to the fact that it is VERY hard for me to buff off if put on too thick. I can't stress the words "very hard" enough!
 
Count me in w/ Accumulator as one of those who have never had a problem using SG. AIO/SG was my first introduction to any "boutique" products period. Prior to using SG, I only had experience with the typical OTC waxes I could by at local stores. I did read up on the nuances associated with applying SG thin and I think doing my homework prior to using it for the first time paid off.



If high humidity plays any part in SG's "finicky" nature, I should have had all kinds of trouble in swamp-city Louisiana.



Have you ever tried applying SG with the WOWO method or put some in a fine spray bottle to spritz your applicator for a more even coating?
 
Count me in w/ Accumulator as one of those who have never had a problem using SG. AIO/SG was my first introduction to any "boutique" products period. Prior to using SG, I only had experience with the typical OTC waxes I could by at local stores. I did read up on the nuances associated with applying SG thin and I think doing my homework prior to using it for the first time paid off.



If high humidity plays any part in SG's "finicky" nature, I should have had all kinds of trouble in swamp-city Louisiana.



Have you ever tried applying SG with the WOWO method or put some in a fine spray bottle to spritz your applicator for a more even coating?
 
DJ Trackie said:
maybe it's the weather, because i can attest to the fact that it is VERY hard for me to buff off if put on too thick. I can't stress the words "very hard" enough!
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Heh heh, OK, I'll take your word for it! If it's a pain for you then, well, it's a pain.



But I'm at a loss to come up with a solution :confused: If you haven't tried them yet, you might get some suede-style MFs. If find these the best for KSG removal.
 
DJ Trackie said:
maybe it's the weather, because i can attest to the fact that it is VERY hard for me to buff off if put on too thick. I can't stress the words "very hard" enough!
Click to expand...





Heh heh, OK, I'll take your word for it! If it's a pain for you then, well, it's a pain.



But I'm at a loss to come up with a solution :confused: If you haven't tried them yet, you might get some suede-style MFs. If find these the best for KSG removal.
 
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