Can SG be to thin

I just tried Gonzo's method on applying Klasse SG today. I did make some changes though. I used a microfiber applicator instead of a towel and I got it damp with distilled water. Damp as in you could wring out a tablespoon of water. Then I put a line of SG down the entire Microfiber applicator and then buffed on a panel then immediatley buffed off with a clean and dry microfiber towel. It was easy to buff off and it left the paint smooth and just as good looking as applying SG just by itself. I will put 5 coats on and I will post back if I have durability issues with this method.
 
I just tried Gonzo's method on applying Klasse SG today. I did make some changes though. I used a microfiber applicator instead of a towel and I got it damp with distilled water. Damp as in you could wring out a tablespoon of water. Then I put a line of SG down the entire Microfiber applicator and then buffed on a panel then immediatley buffed off with a clean and dry microfiber towel. It was easy to buff off and it left the paint smooth and just as good looking as applying SG just by itself. I will put 5 coats on and I will post back if I have durability issues with this method.
 
Well finished my second coat of SG tonight, with a wateing time of about an hour or two before buffing of and had no problem. If the SG did not want to come off simply spay some water on the MF towel and it comes right off. Will have to see how the second coat came out when there is daylight, hopefully there wount be a complain in the morning. :nervous:
 
Well finished my second coat of SG tonight, with a wateing time of about an hour or two before buffing of and had no problem. If the SG did not want to come off simply spay some water on the MF towel and it comes right off. Will have to see how the second coat came out when there is daylight, hopefully there wount be a complain in the morning. :nervous:
 
I do believe you can put it on too thinly, especially if you are using a damp applicator. SG is water soluble, and when attempting to put it down sparingly, it's easy to get fooled by the water film being smeared around. I'm pretty sure I've done that to myself several times with SG.



That, I think, is the reason so many folks find many coats to be necessary for a good appearance and durability.
 
I do believe you can put it on too thinly, especially if you are using a damp applicator. SG is water soluble, and when attempting to put it down sparingly, it's easy to get fooled by the water film being smeared around. I'm pretty sure I've done that to myself several times with SG.



That, I think, is the reason so many folks find many coats to be necessary for a good appearance and durability.
 
foxtrapper said:
I do believe you can put it on too thinly, especially if you are using a damp applicator. SG is water soluble..That, I think, is the reason so many folks find many coats to be necessary for a good appearance and durability.
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I don't get the damp applicator bit. Why dampen the applicator? With just KSG on it, you can apply it very thin, get good durability, etc. etc.
 
foxtrapper said:
I do believe you can put it on too thinly, especially if you are using a damp applicator. SG is water soluble..That, I think, is the reason so many folks find many coats to be necessary for a good appearance and durability.
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I don't get the damp applicator bit. Why dampen the applicator? With just KSG on it, you can apply it very thin, get good durability, etc. etc.
 
I don't like dampening the applicator, either. Introducing any water with SG at the time it starts to bond to the paint IMO may decrease its durability. I don't have any irrefutable evidence on this it just makes sense to me and I prefer to err on the side of caution.



Although, I realize there are people in the "damp" mf camp that see it work OK for them, too. :nixweiss
 
I don't like dampening the applicator, either. Introducing any water with SG at the time it starts to bond to the paint IMO may decrease its durability. I don't have any irrefutable evidence on this it just makes sense to me and I prefer to err on the side of caution.



Although, I realize there are people in the "damp" mf camp that see it work OK for them, too. :nixweiss
 
Accumulator said:
I don't get the damp applicator bit. Why dampen the applicator? With just KSG on it, you can apply it very thin, get good durability, etc. etc.
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With a damp applicator you can spread the SG around better on the pad, and hence on the vehicle. At least that's the theory. If you only put a nickel sized drop on the pad, trying to rub a nickel over the whole car uniformly is a bit difficult.



In another thread some of us speculated that using a spritzer bottle to mist SG over the entire face of the pad was probably a very good idea. Seems to me one or two folks mentioned they were already doing this with good results.
 
Accumulator said:
I don't get the damp applicator bit. Why dampen the applicator? With just KSG on it, you can apply it very thin, get good durability, etc. etc.
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With a damp applicator you can spread the SG around better on the pad, and hence on the vehicle. At least that's the theory. If you only put a nickel sized drop on the pad, trying to rub a nickel over the whole car uniformly is a bit difficult.



In another thread some of us speculated that using a spritzer bottle to mist SG over the entire face of the pad was probably a very good idea. Seems to me one or two folks mentioned they were already doing this with good results.
 
I just don't get why people use it if it's SO difficult to apply properly - I'd much rather work with UPP or WG as it's about 10x easier to use and you don't have to apply 5+ coats.



Each to their own though. :D
 
I just don't get why people use it if it's SO difficult to apply properly - I'd much rather work with UPP or WG as it's about 10x easier to use and you don't have to apply 5+ coats.



Each to their own though. :D
 
[quote name='foxtrapper']With a damp applicator you can spread the SG around better on the pad, and hence on the vehicle. At least that's the theory. If you only put a nickel sized drop on the pad, trying to rub a nickel over the whole car uniformly is a bit difficult...[\QUOTE]



Yeah, I figured it was something like that, but I just never felt the need to do that, and like chml17l I figured it might compromise the KSG in some way. Seems like a tiny bit of SG lubes the applicator just fine.



I just can't imagine putting "a nickel size drop" of KSG on a pad, I use so much less than that that it's *literally* beyond me, the notion of using that much. I put a little more SG on the pad frequently rather than put a bunch on at once.



Heh heh, I guess I'm just on a different wavelength from some people and that I too oughta just say "to each their own" rather than beating this thread to death and risking sounding even more contentious than I probably already do :o But it seemed to me that people who were having trouble with KSG might want to try using it the way I do since I don't have any problems using it that way. With all the great products on the market these days there are plenty of ways to go, so whatever works for somebody is the stuff they oughta be using.
 
[quote name='foxtrapper']With a damp applicator you can spread the SG around better on the pad, and hence on the vehicle. At least that's the theory. If you only put a nickel sized drop on the pad, trying to rub a nickel over the whole car uniformly is a bit difficult...[\QUOTE]



Yeah, I figured it was something like that, but I just never felt the need to do that, and like chml17l I figured it might compromise the KSG in some way. Seems like a tiny bit of SG lubes the applicator just fine.



I just can't imagine putting "a nickel size drop" of KSG on a pad, I use so much less than that that it's *literally* beyond me, the notion of using that much. I put a little more SG on the pad frequently rather than put a bunch on at once.



Heh heh, I guess I'm just on a different wavelength from some people and that I too oughta just say "to each their own" rather than beating this thread to death and risking sounding even more contentious than I probably already do :o But it seemed to me that people who were having trouble with KSG might want to try using it the way I do since I don't have any problems using it that way. With all the great products on the market these days there are plenty of ways to go, so whatever works for somebody is the stuff they oughta be using.
 
If you prefer to dampen the applicator, I would think that Sonus Acrylic Spritz would be a much better choice than water.



I will admit that I've experienced certain temperature/humidity conditions that have made SG more difficult to remove. I think there is a period between "WOWO" and "leave on at least an hour" where SG can be finiky, especially if it is on too thick. On the other hand, SG is hard to beat for durability.



AIO+SGX2+UPP is a look that I am real happy with, but this is true with any product; if you do not like working with it, then you should look for something else. My lifelong quest for a suitable trim dressing continues, still. ;)
 
If you prefer to dampen the applicator, I would think that Sonus Acrylic Spritz would be a much better choice than water.



I will admit that I've experienced certain temperature/humidity conditions that have made SG more difficult to remove. I think there is a period between "WOWO" and "leave on at least an hour" where SG can be finiky, especially if it is on too thick. On the other hand, SG is hard to beat for durability.



AIO+SGX2+UPP is a look that I am real happy with, but this is true with any product; if you do not like working with it, then you should look for something else. My lifelong quest for a suitable trim dressing continues, still. ;)
 
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