Can Carnauba Be Layered?

WAX2MUCH

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I have heard different opinions of whether high quality carnaubas can be layered.



The Stuf people say "not really" since the second layer wipes most of the first off.... but I see on the PB website that Natty's can.



Perhaps a second layer only adds perhaps 20% more wax?



Do any of you layer your carnauba? Comments appreciated.
 
I've put 2 coats of #16 on my car. I noticed a difference (although maybe it was only in my head). I did, however, wait 24 hours between coats so that the first layer could cure.
 
You can layer, though diminishing returns sets in after a certain point...I've got 3 layers of #16 on for no real reason... waited 24 hours for the 2nd and 7 days for the 3rd...
 
Thanks for the info/opinions. Kind of what I surmised...after two layers (24 hrs. apart), diminishing returns definitely set in.
 
Here's something you can try: after you have "enough" wax on your car, add another "layer" to a section of the hood. Observe this section and see how much longer (if any) it seems to be well protected.



I added another coat of wax in this manner a week after I did the whole car. That area kept beading a lot more than one week longer. I know beading doesn't tell the whole story, but it *is* a clue...



Keep in mind that you *don't* want to unduly disturb the existing wax when you add more. So don't rub in the additional "layers" aggressively, try to "lay them on top of the existing wax" rather than "apply them to the paint".
 
ABSOLUTELY! DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF WAX USED. I USE A CUSTOM MADE WAX ( MADE HERE IN CANADA ON VANCOUVER ISLAND) THAT LOOKS AMAZING AFTER 4 OR 5 COATS. THIS WAX HAS NO SILICONS, ABRASIVES OR FILLERS AND TAKES ON AN EXOTIC WET LOOK WITH MULTIPLE COATS.
 
Yes. I have layered P21S to good effect but I waited 24 hours between coats. I would stop at 2 coats though.
 
DSVWGLI.................................................................................... WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE WAX THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT AND WHERE CAN I BUY IT?
 
A pure paste wax like P21 S can be but any cream or liquid carnauba's I doubt you could due to the hydrocarbons.

Don't trust me on this, I'm no wax wizard.
 
Accumulator- thanks for the advice about being gentle with the second coat so as to disturb the first layer as little as possible....that makes sense.



I'm going to be working on a red C5 and will be using EX followed in 24 hrs with Nattys....and then a second coat of Nattys a day or so later.



Thanks to all for their input.
 
ALAN81 said:
DSVWGLI.................................................................................... WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE WAX THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT AND WHERE CAN I BUY IT?



ALAN81



The name of the wax is called Concours Red Wax. Because this is a very small company it is not sold over the counter, only through a distributor. If you are interested I can get you some.



DSVWGLI.
 
The "does it layer question" has often been debated with carnuba waxes but whether you believe it does or doesn't I will say this. Last summer I waxed my car with souveran at least every other week just to keep the car looking good for summer. It looked like I had so many oils on the car it was ridiculous, definetely not a bad thing IMO...
 
DSVWGLI said:
ALAN81



The name of the wax is called Concours Red Wax. Because this is a very small company it is not sold over the counter, only through a distributor. If you are interested I can get you some.



DSVWGLI.

I would be interested. How much?
 
Of course. As long as it is a pure wax (meaning that it has no cleaner) it can be layered. If you are good in putting on the wax, and thoroughly buffing it off, you can layer as many coats as you want. Just be mindful that in time, your paint should be re-cleaned and re-layered with wax. Don't keep piling it on for years without deep cleaning and re-applying, or else you will notice dullness and dirt beneath your shine.



To me, there is nothing that can match the resolution a well applied and deep layered high quality carnauba waxed paint surface.



You will find also that your waxed surface will last a lot longer with multiple coats; I would say as a rule of thumb, between 5-9 coats. You will not need that many to get the minimum amount of protection, but in terms of depth of shine and resolution, I have found that with a high quality carnauba wax, the coatings should be between 5 and 9 coats, with 9 and up being the place you want to be at in terms of depth of shine.



PS: Try not to cake on too many layers of wax in a single session (ie five coats of wax on a saturday, etc. One and/or up to two coats per session is enough). The best shine and longest lasting result has to be slowly applied, stretched, cured and re-applied.
 
dsvwgli ................I would love to know the costof the wax and shipping to united states (approx) thanks
 
ALAN81 said:
DSVWGLI.................................................................................... WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE WAX THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT AND WHERE CAN I BUY IT?



LOLOLOL Alan, I found the use of caps in your reply very amusing this morning.. Thank You !!
 
Since you can dissolve hardened carnuba wax with soft carnuba wax, I'd be very dubious about claims of layering it. I honestly do not think it can be done.



Only if the base layer would not dissolve could a second layer be applied. This is true with acrylic type waxes that do not dissolve when reimmersed.
 
ALAN81 said:
dsvwgli ................I would love to know the costof the wax and shipping to united states (approx) thanks



ALAN81



The cost of this wax is $42.50 Canaidian (32.25 US) and shipping from Canada Post to the US is between $7.00-$10.00 Canadian (5-7 US) depending if it is ground or air delivery. If you are still interested send me an e-mail at d-swicklund@telus.net.



DSVWGLI
 
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