Calling pros that use Dewalt dw849

Dials on Makita list speeds as #1, #2, etc.



DeWalt goes by RPM in increments of 400. eg. 1000, 1400, 1800



DeWalt has a setting at 1800 RPM yes it is over 1750, but not by much.



Makita makes reliable tools



You are probably going to splatter product regardless of how gradual the power comes on. The advantage is you don't get that initial shock(not electric) when the buffer starts



Newer to the industry does not mean newer or better technology. It is nothing but a grinder motor in a hard shell. Just wires and magnets. Importance is how these wires and magnets hold up to stress. DeWalt has a proven track record when it comes to reliability.



DeWalt weighs more because it has a ball bearing motor



Makita has a more powerful 10 amp motor compared to DeWalt with 8 amps which is plenty of power for polishing.



The handle is no big deal. Either way, you will adjust.



There are many more factors than slower RPM's that produce results.



You should take into consideration the cost of replacement parts for when your tool breaks. (Everything with moving parts will break at some time and point)



Hope this helps a little.
 
Yes, the dials on the Makita are numbers. Is it written somewhere in the manual that each number represents a specific RPM for the Makita? I just figured the DW has a total of 6 settings. The makita has a total of?

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That was my point. I have not heard of the 9227 breaking anywhere in this forum. So maybe it is equally as sturdy and reliable as the DW. I have no reason to think that one will last longer than the other at this moment in time? That helped greatly, thank you nagchampa.



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Knight said:


I have not heard of the 9227 breaking anywhere in this forum. So maybe it is equally as sturdy and reliable as the DW. I have no reason to think that one will last longer than the other at this moment in time? That helped greatly, thank you nagchampa.



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The 9227 will break at some point, just like the DW849 will break. Parts get worn and vibrate loose. Make sure you can find replacement parts for a reasonable price.



I chose the DeWalt over the Makita because I have had both Makita and DeWalt power tools and I find that DeWalt is usually a stronger, more rugged tool. That is just my opinion. I also like the fact that it has a ball bearing motor which should work for a very long time.



I was not concerned with weight having worked with 25 pound stone grinders at a previous job. You will get used to it in about a week. The only way to tell if one is more reliable than the other, is to talk to someone who has had and used both for a long period of time like 10 years. They will be able to tell you how often they need to be serviced or replaced.
 
How many dials, exactly does the makita have?

And do the dials represent specific RPMS? ( like are they listed in manual book or somewhere on box? so that I can know exact speed)Which of the two is newer?



Thanks again guys





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The legend for the RPM on the Makita is glued on the housing just above the dial.



I have owned many, many brand of tools over the years. I have Many DeWalt drills, sanders, mitre saws, Porter Cable Routers, Plate Jointers, Tiger saws, AND Makitas---Drills, buffers(2), sanders etc...



I like both the Makita and the DeWalt tools. However, I also chose the Makita 9227C. Better weight, clutched start up, and easy access to brushes etc... The DeWalt, though a nice piece, is heavy and lower powered compared to the Makita.



I have not had one problem with any of my Makita tools over the years. I have had wearable parts wear out and had to be replaced. It was the last point that lead me to the Makita. My experience has shown that the Makita's parts do not seem to wear out as fast. Now, I am talking a LITTLE less, not much.



I like both brands and own several of each! But, this time I chose the Makita. For drills and buffers-- Makita. For saws and sanders--DeWalt, and for Routers--Porter Cable.



To each their own! Just be careful with the darn thing!!

Oh, I generally have found tha the Makita to be similar in price to the DeWalt.



Good Luck!
 
I remember Ron K saying once that he preferred the DeWalt as he felt it was a little more robust in design and that was important for those who use their polishers 10+ hours/day, 7 days/week. If that sounds like your kind of usage then maybe the DeWalt is a better choice.



If not then this decision is pedantic. Especially if you've never used one of these machines. If you can you might want to rent or borrow one and use it on a car to see how it works for you. Or at least buy it from a local dealer where you can return/exchange it if you don't like it. Buying online might be a bad choice right now until you can figure out which one you want.
 
2hot ford and Bretfraz.

hotford, I agree with your choice and shineshops I am surprised to say I have agreed too.
The legend for the RPM on the Makita is glued on the housing just above the dial.
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Nice, no need to worry about knowing the RPMS then.

Though I am still wondering how many dials EXACTLY there are on the makita. This is important for me to know. Since the RPMS start at 600, I am guessing the number of dials are 7? I am also guessing the Makita is newer to the industry? What is with the 9227 CCCCCC or BC ? are there different types or something or the 9227 is a one of a kind like I am thinking?



Bret, 10+ hours/day, 7 days/week; will not be using the buffer even close to that much. After, wanting the dewalt for about a month, I am almost certain after this brief time that the makita is my number one choice. Bret, maybe you can help me with the original question about 3M backing plates and adptors and such?





Thanks again again and again guys





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Well, I just counted the number of indents on the dial between 600 and 3000 RPM; I counted the total of 21 indents. Like I said, it is an excellent machine!



Go to a tool shop and see how one feels for yourself. Oh, by the way, the Makita comes with a velcro backing plate for 8" pads while the DeWalt does not.



In terms of running it day in, day out: you will not have any problem with the Makita. My buddy is a Metal work teacher at a local high school. I get to see first hand how well certain brands hold up. If kids can use it daily and it does not break....good enough to me!! No one in their right mind would ever treat tools as badly as high school kids!! (Not all kids, but the majority!)



Good Luck!
 
The Makita is an exexcellent tool, but it is not as heavy duty as the DeWalt.



The DeWalt has larger armature, this allows the tool to run cooler longer, it also has larger bearings. And just becaus one tool may draw more amps doesn't make it a more powerful tool.
 
As Andre' said, the Makita has a small armature and smaller brushes. This causes the Makita to typically run hotter than other buffers (especially with that 11 amp motor), causing it to chew through brushes much quicker.



The light weight is due to the fact Makita uses plastic parts in thier motors. True it cuts down on weight, but it also cuts down on the life span of the tool. The DeWalt is all heat treated steel and ball bearing motors. Thus, it weighs more but on the upside it's pretty much bullet proof as far as reliability goes.



Of the 2, I would buy the DeWalt.
 
2hotford- 21 pre-set settings? OM. while the dewalt only has 6? All of these pre-sets are labeled? Is the makita newer than the dewalt? I will check it out today at a local store.

ShowrooomLincoln- since you use the 3M pads and such you might know which 3m Backing plate to get? I posted a couple links, one of which is 3M backing plates and I don't know which one. Could you help me with this? You are Andre?



Thank you again for the input on buffers.





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I don't use 3M backing plates because some require adaptors and I don't think some of them are worth double the price. I just use a Meguiars backing plate. Works just fine for me.
 
Do you use these pads? The 5725, 5703, 5704, 5705, 5723? I thought some of these pads require that metal bolt adaptor so the arm does not dig in the paint? This is what 3M said on their video for professional detailers. I am happy someone might have the same pads I will be using so I can discuss things with them.



http://www21.3m.com/dr/v2/ec_MAIN.E...RP=0&CACHE_ID=0 Here is the link again to the 3M backing plates and such. If I were to get those pads above, what exactly would I need from that 3M site to make sure my makita or dewalt works with the pads?



Thank you showroom



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I don't use any of those pads.



I use 05737, which is a foam cutting

Then use 05738 which is foam polishing.

Both pads are waffle design pads.



I use them with no adaptors or attachements. They work just fine with a Meguiars backing plate.



For Wool, I use a 100% Real Lambswool Leather Backed pads from AutoInt. They are the only suppliers I know of that carry a real Lamswool pad.



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Maybe I should just call 3M and ask them which backing plate and adaptor I will need. Unless anyone knows, that is probably the best thing.





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I am not knocking 3M, but why would you use their superbuff line of products when there are plenty of interchangable products among all the other lines?



You will never have to worry about metal digging into the paint with a velcro backing pad. I could only see buying the superbuff if you have extensive experience with many types and brands of pads and 3M was all that you ever planned on using.



If you are getting the Makita, it should come with a velcro backing pad for it so regular velcro pads will work just fine. Don't call 3M quite yet. Take a trip to your nearest autobody supply store and look at all the products brands they have.
 
Here is the run down for both.



Makita Dials----------------DW (rpms)

1. 600-----------------------1000

2. 900-----------------------1400

3. 1500---------------------1800

4. 2100---------------------2200

5. 2700---------------------2600

6. 3000---------------------3000



I believe this is accurate on both sides.

I read in the makita owners manual that there can be lots of settings in between the settings as you say. Explain these indents between each setting? Like, how do you set 700 rpm? I guess I am confused on how you can set different speeds in between each dial setting. If you have it set at 1 , than how can you adjust from 600 rpm? Thank you for helping me clear this up 2hotford.







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That using a velcro backing plate will cause vibrations because it can not be perfectly centered unlike getting a backing plate specifically made? Also those pad numbers I mentioned earlier are on the 3M video and I believe they are good pads, and I don't think they will work with the velcro. I hate this process, I wish I could finally get this over with. Soon I will know enough to get everything. ahhhh



Thanks again.









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Just need some help getting the right 3M backing plate and adaptor for the pads I mentioned earlier. If anyone knows exactly which is the right one please post. If not, then I will contact 3M and ask them.





Thank you



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