Butchers Shower Foam Gun - Pricing

the other pc said:
You won't get good aeration that way. Better have somebody telling jokes to make you blow it out your nose.





PC.



Tough Group ! Now I am looking for a foam gun. Wonder if this obsession will break me ? I am happy with the 180's people are giving me, so I will keep going :xyxthumbs :xyxthumbs :xyxthumbs
 
My foam gun arrived. Time to raise up the washing skill.



Thanks for the tips. Learned so much over here. Detailing is so much fun. :D
 
opass said:
My foam gun arrived. Time to raise up the washing skill.



Thanks for the tips. Learned so much over here. Detailing is so much fun. :D



opass,



I have Butchers foam gun. It works very well. I use it with two 5 gallon rinse buckets - one on each side of the car. I keep it full of a very strong solution of Zaino Z7 car wash. It only takes a few seconds to snap the gun on the hose with the quick disconnect.



First, I wet down the car. Then soak my my wool mitt in the clean rise water to get it completely wet. Then, I place the mitt on the car tilted up slightly and spray the foam INTO the palm of the mitt. This keeps the foam very focused and it doesn't spray all over the place. It also makes the washing go very fast.



Good luck with your new gun.



Regards,



Dan.
 
I never really got a comfortable handle on that technique so I just take my time and flow the foam over part of a panel and whisk it simultaneously with the mitt. Foam gun in one hand, mitt in the other. This is really something you don't want to rush.
 
:welcome to Autopia dunkinx



The foam guns used by BillD and Accumalator would probaly be a good bet for you

JonM
 
Bill D said:
I never really got a comfortable handle on that technique so I just take my time and flow the foam over part of a panel and whisk it simultaneously with the mitt. Foam gun in one hand, mitt in the other. This is really something you don't want to rush.



Bill,



I don't think I explained what I do very well. I'm pretty sure that our techniques are almost the same...



Regarding the mitt wetting, that's just to get it wet the first time. I just dump it in a bucket, or stick the hose nozzle (no soap) in the mitt and turn the water on. Once the mitt is wet, I don't rewet it except when rinsing the dirty mitt in a rinse bucket.



Regarding washing, I use your technique - mitt in one hand and foam gun in the other. The only difference is that, when spraying the foam on the paint, I use the mitt to block the foam from going all over the place. That way it is concentrated in more or less one spot.



Keeping the foam concentrated in one spot is not a big deal on horizontal surfaces, but it helps on vertical surfaces. When I just sprayed a large vertical surface with the foam gun, I found that half would drip off before I got to it. Lot's waste and not as much cleaning.



By just spraying a small section of paint and using the mitt to block overspray, I can do a 3' X 3' section with one spritz of foam. Almost no waste, and I can see what I've finished and what I've missed.



Best regards,



Dan.
 
Bill D said:
Ok ,gotcha. I just don't put the foam gun in the mitt at all :up



Actually, neither do I. The foam never goes inside the mitt. When spraying on the paint, the mitt is just used to block the foam. :)



Regards,



Dan.
 
Q1: Connection? does or can a water hose connect into the gun at all or is it standalone?



Q2: Refills? how many fills of the gun canister do you need to wash a car?



Q3: Time? how long to wash your car conventionally vs washing with the butcher's gun?



Q4: Cost? how much $$$ for the gun?



Q5: Ad/Disad? what's the biggest advantage of the gun?
 
jmsc said:
Q1: Connection? does or can a water hose connect into the gun at all or is it standalone?



Q2: Refills? how many fills of the gun canister do you need to wash a car?



Q3: Time? how long to wash your car conventionally vs washing with the butcher's gun?



Q4: Cost? how much $$$ for the gun?



Q5: Ad/Disad? what's the biggest advantage of the gun?



jmsc,



Answers to your questions...



Q1: Connection? does or can a water hose connect into the gun at all or is it standalone?



A1: Just connect your hose to the gun. The gun has two parts - water conrtrol nozzle (just a garden sprayer) and the foam gun itself. There is a Quick Disconnect between teh sprayer part and the foam gun part.





Q2: Refills? how many fills of the gun canister do you need to wash a car?



A2: With my Butchers Foam gun I can get about 4 washes out of one filling. I use a heavy concentration of Zaino Z7. I dump in about 1/4 bottle of Z7 and fill the container with water and mix. Then I set the foam gun to it's heaviest concentration. (It's adjustable.)



Q3: Time? how long to wash your car conventionally vs washing with the butcher's gun?



A3: Overall it saves maybe 10 minutes at most per car . However...



It's just that I'm spraying pure soap and water on the car. I'm not dipping my mitt in dirty soapy water all of the time. Even if you use a separate rinse bucket, the soapy water bucket will get dirty. So I'm reducing the chance of paint marring. That's the big benefit.



Also, I have half as many buckets to rinse out. No soapy bucket.



Q4: Cost? how much $$$ for the gun?



A4: You can get them from about $45 to about $75 USD. I bought one from one vendor at $72 and sent it back because it was a cheap knockoff of a Butchers Foam Gun. You should be able to buy the genuine article for about $50 or less.



Q5: Ad/Disad? what's the biggest advantage of the gun?



A5: Biggest advantages are less hassle and reduced chance of marring. Less cleanup and hassle (fewer buckets) are advantages too. It does save a little time also.



The only disadvantage is cost. Given the amount of time, effort and money that I've spent on detailing tools and supplies, $50 is trivial.



Regards,



Dan.
 
Slightly differerent answers from somebody using a slightly different technqiue with the thing:



Q1: Water from the hose is what makes it work. Note that you need a standard, brass quick-disconnect setup to easily connect the foamgun to the hose (espcecially without the foamgun's pistol-grip sprayer). I find it *much* easier to use without said p-g sprayer, controlling the water with a shutoff valve mounted just before the quick-diconnect.



Q2: I use maybe 3/4 to one full gunload per wash (hard to say as I use two foamguns). I have a gallon jug of diluted wash mix and I just refill the foamguns (and the spray bottle I use for wheels, claying, etc.) from that. But note that I probably use more suds from the foamgun than most people, being as how I'm *so* paranoid about marring. I don't mix it up very scientifically to say the least, just do it by eye.



Q3: Takes me *longer* with the foamgun. "Regular" washing is a much quicker process for me but it inevitably results in wash-induced marring. Note that my "mitt-balloon" method that I use for the first passes is a bit unwieldy and that I rinse/inspect the mitt quite frequently. I really use the foamgun in addition to the regular methods, so for me it *adds* time/effort.



Q4: The one I purchased most recently, from Messner's, came to $76.20 shipped to Ohio.



Q5: Reduction in wash-induced marring. I can go a *very* long time before my vehicles pick up enough marring to need polishing. Most surfaces of our minivan (daily driver/dog hauler, used hard almost every day) were *completely* wash-marring-free after more than a year, including nasty Ohio winters. Since buying it new a few years ago, I've only had to polish the S8 after it was washed by others following the "deer incident". For the most part, if I'm willing to put in the effort, the foamgun allows me to eliminate the whole "wash-induced marring" thing.



Note: when dealing with *really* nasty winter stuff, where abrasive [stuff] is plastered on the vehicle, a combination of a pre-soak, the foamgun, and a BHB for the first passes (it's free-rinsing, blast "foam" through brush's bristles) lets me get the vehicles clean without marring. Nothing else I've ever tried would work this well.
 
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