Burnouts

Not to be a jerk, but this is almost like mis-spelling Megwire's...:D



B-R-A-K-E-S = the system on your car that's used to slow or stop the vehicle. "I'm sorry, sir, but your vehicle needs a new set of brakes."





B-R-E-A-K-S = the act of damaging something, or taking a rest/interval. "That kid breaks his truck everytime he runs in to a tree."





/rant
 
If you're serious about your burnouts on a RWD vehicle (i.e. you plan to take the car to the strip frequently), you should look into a line lock for the front brakes. Here's a definition taken from http://www.staginglight.com:

"<strong class='bbc'>line-lock[/b] - A line-lock allows the driver to set the brakes on just one set of tires. Usually, racers put a line-lock on the front tires in order to aid their burnouts. They set the brake, hold a button, and then release the brake pedal. The brakes will release on the back, but hold the front brakes until the button is released."

This is all voodoo to me, though, since I've been an all-wheel drive freak for the last 10 years . . . I pulled a 1.79 60' time in my Talon at the strip <strong class='bbc'>on cold street tires[/b]; I just drove around the burnout box. A two-step rev-limiter is your friend, too: I launched at about 4500 rpm and 5 psi of boost. Slip the clutch quick when the third yellow drops on the tree, and enjoy the feeling of your eyeballs bouncing off the back of your skull and the corners of your mouth being pulled back toward your ears. :xyxthumbs

Tort

"Turbos make torque, and torque makes fun."
-- Corky Bell, <span class='bbc_underline'>Maximum Boost
 
Jngrbrdman, lots of people say that you can pour bleach, motor oil, etc on the tires and they will smoke alot more. I imagine almost any sort of liquid will do this though.



As far as brake-torqueing, my rear axle is non-posi, so usually only one tire spins. I need to adjust my driver front torsion bar, because when looking from the rear, the left side of the vehicle sits lower than the right side, sort of pitched toward the front like it was sitting in a small dip or something, so there is less weight on the rear passenger tire, so usually it is the tire that spins. If I stand on the brakes really hard on pavement, both tires will lay tracks. When turning from a stop and just rolling along I can press down about 1/2 or 3/4 of the way and the weight always shifts to the opposite side and the tire on the other side squeels and spins like crazy. Just punching it on dry pavement from a stop, the rear pass. tire will barely spin and hook up nicely. But with my type of tire, its really not all that great to do these sorts of activities, so I try to keep them to a minimum :)



They sure are fun to watch other people do though :xyxthumbs
 
bleach is actually one of my winter trunk accessories. It helps soften up the rubber on the tires and helps get you unstuck if you find yourself in that situation. It eats the hell out of your tires and is sure to shorten their lifespan, but when you are stuck and its 20 below outside, lifespan of your tires isn't among your higher concerns. :D I didn't know it would make the tires smoke though. Interesting...
 
I used to have an 89 Mustang GT. It was a 302 bored .030" over to make 306 cubic inches of burnout fun! Had an Eaton Posi in the rear end and all...Talk about having done some nasty burnouts! :) Ill put it to you like this...My buddy owns a tire shop and we would put a brand new set on and 10 minutes later there was no more rubber...Just threads...Can we say smokey? >:P
 
Coming from a Cobra guy w/ over 300 horses to the rear wheel, w/ drag slicks

-2nd gear

-high rpms, near redline

-dump clutch as fast as possible

-don't push in your accelerator pedal any more, or you'll hit the rev limiter

-get clutch foot on brake, apply as little pressure as possible to keep spin going

-keep it steady, try to shift to third (might take practice)
 
Envenomed said:
Coming from a Cobra guy w/ over 300 horses to the rear wheel, w/ drag slicks

-2nd gear

-high rpms, near redline

-dump clutch as fast as possible

-don't push in your accelerator pedal any more, or you'll hit the rev limiter

-get clutch foot on brake, apply as little pressure as possible to keep spin going

-keep it steady, try to shift to third (might take practice)
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umm... that sounds even worse on your car than powerbraking...



Besides, with 300 RWHP you should be able to just stomp it and lay down some rubber.
 
A car with a limited slip diff and sufficient torque can do a real burnout - i.e., without holding the brake - and you get TWO nice stripes. It does help to have a manual so you can get the revs up and "shock" the tires with an aggressive de-clutch. My M5 can light up the rears without revving past 2000RPM. (I AM a torque junkie!) I've done it a cupla times, but it is hard on the clutch and hard on the tires. A Mustang Cobra, a Viper, a 'Vette, Camaro SS - with manual trannies - can do it as well.



That is a burnout.



I think abusing a car by doing a brake stand just to smoke a single tire is, well - a little silly. It is also really easy (and therefore equally unimpressive) to do it in a front wheel drive car. When you accelerate, lots of weight transfers to the rear. This enhances the traction of rear-wheel drive cars, but it actually reduces the traction of front-wheel drive cars, which is why it is so easy to get 'em to break loose.
 
Anyone read a more recent issue of Sport Compact Car (I think) that had this Hyundai Tiburon with TWO complete mild turbo drivetrains grafted into the front and rear? Put one end in D and the other in R, and THAT is a serious 4-wheel burnout!!

:shocked

Can't remember if it ran 12 or 13 second ETs....
 
If I take all the stuff out of the bed of my truck and have less that half a tank of gas, then if I stomp on it, depending on the road, I'll let out a chirp and go or a long squeel and go. I don't lay down rubber though unless I do some powerbraking.



I think the mods I wanna do soon will help with the peelout problem though :P
 
My fav burn outs to do are the ones when you are criuzin about 20MPH in first gear then you rev it up, dump the clutch, mash the gas and up in smoke:cool:

From a stop are cool but the ones on the go catch them off guard!



I know that joed1228 knows what I am talking about;)
 
Sorry, but my tires on any of my cars are too expensive to do something that I was able to do with my 71 60 hp VW beetle. In most cases while those foolish enough to drag are putting on a side-show I'm already up the road. Traction and car control is the name of the game. Winning is the goal. :D
 
vjarnot said:


Done any four wheel burn outs with the 911? :D
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Well - yes and no. I tried a few acceleration runs with a G-tech in the car. I had seen a film (Tiff Needel, British show "Top Gear") getting all 4 wheels spinning on a hot launch. The difference is - he didn't have to pay for the car he was driving, and I don't know how many takes it took for him to get it right. Anyway, the Porsche, with its monster rear wheels (295/30-18) and rear weight bias - gets HUGE traction - so breaking the wheels loose takes a huge rev and clutch-drop. I tried ONCE from about 3500 RPM - the wheels did come loose but not quite enough to stay slippery, and I started to get bad wheel hop. I aborted immediately. This is a very good way to break things. Never tried again, either. The car isn't a dragster (even though it is WAY fast.)



Like BlackZ28Conv, I am much more interested in overall car control. I am much happier knocking a few tenths off my time around a road course - which requires excellence in steering, shifting and braking - often all at the same time.
 
Originally posted by carguy

Well - yes and no. I tried a few acceleration runs with a G-tech in the car. I had seen a film (Tiff Needel, British show "Top Gear") getting all 4 wheels spinning on a hot launch. The difference is - he didn't have to pay for the car he was driving, and I don't know how many takes it took for him to get it right.
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Top Gear has amazing videos - Needel has my dream job! I wish I could find the S2000 vid they did.



Originally posted by carguy

Like BlackZ28Conv, I am much more interested in overall car control. I am much happier knocking a few tenths off my time around a road course - which requires excellence in steering, shifting and braking - often all at the same time.
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Hey, don't get me wrong - that's exactly why I got the S2000. It's not a dragster at all, it's built to eat up a road course...
 
Redcar GUY said:
My fav burn outs to do are the ones when you are criuzin about 20MPH in first gear then you rev it up, dump the clutch, mash the gas and up in smoke:cool:

From a stop are cool but the ones on the go catch them off guard!



I know that joed1228 knows what I am talking about;)
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LOL the moving ones are great.



My friend has a 442 Cutlass and has a shift kit on it (automatic trans) We were cruising on the lakefront at about 30mph. He stomped on it and when it downshifted it left about 7 ft of rubber. Got to love old muscle cars!



From a stop if he just stomps on it, then it leaves around 30ft of rubber and lots of smoke.
 
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