Brand New Black G37

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BocaCoupe

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I just picked up a new, black G37 1 week ago. Looks like it has some light swirls from the dealer. I was wondering what process I could do by hand to start it off right. I was thinking a dawn wash, clay bar, then some polish / wax or a AIO.



I'd like to do it by hand if possible, otherwise i might consider getting a 7424.



Any thoughts?
 
depending how bad the swirls are it will be tough going at it by hand. i'm gonna guess they're not to bad, i would invest in a udm at the very least, i'm sure someone can give you good advice as to what process to use and what products. off hand though i would'nt use dawn, no need imo. a good wash with say pb's citrus wash and gloss, or super slick and suds should do it as far as the wash goes, definitly clay to get contaminates out of the paint, you'd be shocked at what can be in there even on a new car, rail dust, brake dust etc., a good polish to remove the swirls, i hear good things about menzerna intensive poilsh, an ipa wipe down, danase wet glaze, and depending on your preference, a good nuba, or a sealant of your choice. of course there are a variety of products and i'm sure you'll hear about them, you'll get alot of great advice from the members on this site, good luck with your new car.:2thumbs:
 
Congrats on your new G37. I would definitely get a pc/udm or flex. Being a black car you will need it. Proper washing and drying techniques will save you a lot of grief in the long run.
 
I have an '06 G35 that I just detailed this weekend. I haven't detailed many other cars, but from reading Autopia for a few years, I believe the consensus is that Infinity clear coat is relatively soft. Meaning it will get scratched easily, but will be easier to correct.



My "go to" process is Menzerna IP with an LC orange pad, followed by Menzerna Finishing Polish (po 106). I've used Optimum Polish, Klass AIO, Megs #2, Megs #9, XMT #1, XMT #3, XMT 360, and Mother's 3-step system. None of those have even come close to the Menzerna duo that I now use.



However, I have been pretty bad at maintaining my details so usually when I get around to polishing, I have a lot to fix.



Since your car is new, and if you plan on maintaining it with proper frequency of washing and waxing/sealing, then I might go for some kind of one-step product. Menzerna PO 203 Power Finish looks like something I might want to try.
 
Hi, I'm a newbie basic detailer (just placed my first order at DI after reading lots of the posts here), but I am also looking at purchasing a g37 and this thread relates to something I had wanted to ask.



The G37s have a "self healing clear coat". From what I've read, the clear coat will "melt" a little when it's out in the sun and may/may not fill in the little swirls.



My question was going to be if it would be a good idea or not to seal something like that. I hope others can give you more info and advice.
 
I've never heard of this "self - healing clear coat" but the idea is intriguing.



Now, I'm not a chemist, but this doesn't sound right to me? Wouldn't that mean that the clear coat has some unreasonably low melting temperature?



what happens if you leave it in the sun too long?



If the clear coat does in fact "melt" or become malleable in some way, wouldn't gravity "pull" it off of the horizontal surfaces (hood, roof, etc). Wouldn't the clear coat then become more concentrated on the sides of the car? Or worse, could the clear coat somehow "fall off"?



I would think that the heat from even a Dual Action polisher would absolutely obliterate something like this.



What if you live in england and the sun never comes out?



This is the first I've heard of this, and while it's intriguing, I'm skeptical. I'm wondering if this is anything like that "paint sealant system" that they try to sell you when you buy a new car. You know the one where you NEVER have to wax your car again
 
Less said:
I've never heard of this "self - healing clear coat" but the idea is intriguing.



Now, I'm not a chemist, but this doesn't sound right to me? Wouldn't that mean that the clear coat has some unreasonably low melting temperature?



what happens if you leave it in the sun too long?



If the clear coat does in fact "melt" or become malleable in some way, wouldn't gravity "pull" it off of the horizontal surfaces (hood, roof, etc). Wouldn't the clear coat then become more concentrated on the sides of the car? Or worse, could the clear coat somehow "fall off"?



I would think that the heat from even a Dual Action polisher would absolutely obliterate something like this.



What if you live in england and the sun never comes out?



This is the first I've heard of this, and while it's intriguing, I'm skeptical. I'm wondering if this is anything like that "paint sealant system" that they try to sell you when you buy a new car. You know the one where you NEVER have to wax your car again
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Less, this is some new paint from Nissan -Infiniti. How this work? :confused:I don't know and I can't find any info. This is new for 2009 from them.Tx.
 
If your in Boca There is an unbelieveable detailer in Lake Worth.If you spend that kind of cash on a G37 I would give it to a pro for the first time to correct the rail dust and all the crap that is sitting on your paint. but that is just me.
 
Less said:
I've never heard of this "self - healing clear coat" but the idea is intriguing.



Now, I'm not a chemist, but this doesn't sound right to me? Wouldn't that mean that the clear coat has some unreasonably low melting temperature?



what happens if you leave it in the sun too long?



If the clear coat does in fact "melt" or become malleable in some way, wouldn't gravity "pull" it off of the horizontal surfaces (hood, roof, etc). Wouldn't the clear coat then become more concentrated on the sides of the car? Or worse, could the clear coat somehow "fall off"?



I would think that the heat from even a Dual Action polisher would absolutely obliterate something like this.



What if you live in england and the sun never comes out?



This is the first I've heard of this, and while it's intriguing, I'm skeptical. I'm wondering if this is anything like that "paint sealant system" that they try to sell you when you buy a new car. You know the one where you NEVER have to wax your car again
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Infiniti has come out with a self healing paint, however, I don't know if it is standard on all Infiniti's. It may be an option.
 
Look on the underside of the hood. It might have a sticker "Use approved materials for hard clear coat only". If it does then it has the super hard clear. Infinity has many different types of paints.
 
The infiniti 2009 FX50 has that paint job that is supposed to be swirl free for the life of the paint job. I have seen a thread on here i think Scottwax has some knowledge about those Swirl free infiniti paint jobs.
 
Streetlife said:
The infiniti 2009 FX50 has that paint job that is supposed to be swirl free for the life of the paint job. I have seen a thread on here i think Scottwax has some knowledge about those Swirl free infiniti paint jobs.
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I have a customer with a black EX35 with the self healing paint. Looked pretty much swirl free sitting in the sun last time I saw it (never detailed it, just their 20" trailer for their Harleys), which is pretty impressive for a black Infiniti. My understanding is for the first 3 years or so, the clear will reflow enough after being parked in the sun that small swirls and scratches will disappear. After 3 years, the paint is fully hardened and is to be cared for like regular paint.



I don't know if the G37 has the same paint or not. I detailed a black sedan and it had the typical minor swirls you'd expect, plus the dealer was able to put some nice holograms into it a few months after I detailed it according to the owner.



Assuming the G37 still has regular black Infiniti paint, I'd take it back and get another color. Seriously. Same with a 335 or Cayenne. ;)



BocaCoupe Investing in some Monster Fluffy MFs would be my first suggestion. Be gentle when washing. Expect to polish after claying because even mild clay tends to mar the finish. Get a clear bra ASAP.
 
BocaCoupe - newer Infiniti paint is a real challenge to correct by hand. I would highly suggest getting either a Flex or having the car professionally detailed. A PC *may* not have enough power to properly break down abrasives if it's a softer infinity clear, and it may not have the cut if it's a harder Infiniti clear.



If you get a flex, it's hard not to go with 1Z Hochglanz on that paint. If you want to get it professionally detailed, I'd love to offer my services.
 
Seems like this [Standard Scratch Shield "self-healing" clearcoat paint finish] as infiniti describes it is standard in many 2009 models like the G37.



I would assume that just regular LSPs would work fine.

If not, what do you suggest that's worked well?



Just to clarify, if the car is still new, we should avoid any polishing and cleaner waxes I assume?



Or regular polishing still applies if the "self-healing" does not correct the problem?
 
There is a video of a guy useing a rotary on the self healing paint. It was a pain in the butt. The rotary kept overheating, and the polish gummed up the whole time. The new G37 does have this paint.
 
loudog2 said:
The new G37 does have this paint.
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Yes, it does... and thanks because I did not know this.



According to Infiniti's website it's standard for all G37 models:

Specificatioins and options (exterior) for the G37

Scratch Shield Paint



Scratch Shield is a soft clear coat technology that can heal most light scratches and swirl marks in the clear coat that do not penetrate into the base coat. It helps paint to better maintain gloss over time.



Learn something new everyday. :xyxthumbs I wonder how well it works.



-edit- This does bring up interesting points as well. Check out this link/video - The famous sticky clear coat issue - Detailing Bliss Forum "Nica" had a heck of time with a G35xS which seems to have the Scratch Shield Paint.
 
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