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BOSS BEST IN SHOW SYSYEM
- Thread starter Bull6791
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I have a 2024 Toyota Corolla. It came from the factory and I picked it up Sept 1, 2024. It had 1 mile on it when I got it. I am trying to keep the paint looking nice and in really good condition.
My last car an 05 corolla. I recall did not care. The paint was in bad shape I washed it sometimes and never put any kind of paint protection on the car. This time is want to start from the beginning and keep the paint looking beautiful until I don’t have the car anymore.
The color is called Celestite: which is like sky blue.
My last car an 05 corolla. I recall did not care. The paint was in bad shape I washed it sometimes and never put any kind of paint protection on the car. This time is want to start from the beginning and keep the paint looking beautiful until I don’t have the car anymore.
The color is called Celestite: which is like sky blue.
Setec Astronomy
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In the old days, you put down a sealant as a base, and a wax on top for beauty. Using Klasse AIO, followed by Klasse SG, topped with P21S, was what the founder of this forum called "The Perfect Shine".Just asking: why do people put jescar power lock down first then top it with COLLINITE 845. That seems like a lot of work when COLLINITE 845 is really good by itself and last a long time on its own. I never understood that. Thanks.
But today there are so many good products, I would follow the advice of Mike Phillips and "find something you like, and use it often".
Setec Astronomy
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YOU said you don't need to top anymore, you can do whatever you want.
If you live in a less temperate climate, and can only apply something once a month, then I think you will be great with just something like Opti-Seal. If you have to get through winter, then 845 may get you through, depending. There are no absolutes here, it has to do with what your climate is, what your goals are, etc. As I said in a previous post, if you want the best protection, use a coating.
If you feel you need some sort of objective testing, there are plenty of YouTube videos where people torture test products next to each other, find some of those and pick your winner. As I've said, both 845 and Opti-Seal are good products. I have said I haven't used the latest version of Opti-Seal (in fact the bottle I have is the original version from 2007...now that I think about it, my 845 is the pre-VOC version, so not what you would get today, either), but based on MY experience with MY versions, I would give the ease-of-use nod to Opti-Seal, and the longevity nod to 845.
I don't know where you live, if you live in a temperate climate, and you wash your car every week, using a ceramic detail spray will probably give you plenty of protection.That is a really good combination. Jescar power lock topped with 845. COLLINITE 845 is really good by itself. It does not need anything else. The only thing in my opinion that that combination does is add more work.
If you live in a less temperate climate, and can only apply something once a month, then I think you will be great with just something like Opti-Seal. If you have to get through winter, then 845 may get you through, depending. There are no absolutes here, it has to do with what your climate is, what your goals are, etc. As I said in a previous post, if you want the best protection, use a coating.
If you feel you need some sort of objective testing, there are plenty of YouTube videos where people torture test products next to each other, find some of those and pick your winner. As I've said, both 845 and Opti-Seal are good products. I have said I haven't used the latest version of Opti-Seal (in fact the bottle I have is the original version from 2007...now that I think about it, my 845 is the pre-VOC version, so not what you would get today, either), but based on MY experience with MY versions, I would give the ease-of-use nod to Opti-Seal, and the longevity nod to 845.
Setec Astronomy
Well-known member
As you have said several times. There isn't just one way to do this. At the risk of repeating myself, you will get the best protection from a coating.Since you asked. My goal is to keep my new car paint looking nice and protected.
You may be overthinking this. I completely understand having a new car and wanting to keep it looking nice. Here's my opinion. Since you keep mentioning the Collinite, use it. It's a great hybrid wax. Lasts a long time, has a nice shine, protects well. It's awesome stuff. It's "old" technology, but who cares? It works.
After you have the Collinite (or whatever you choose to use) on your paint, wash it as often as needed (no more, no less) with a mild, high quality car wash soap. Learn how to wash without doing damage to the paint. I use the multiple towel method (aka the Garry Dean Wash Method) instead of the two-bucket method as I feel it is safer. Use a drying aid when you dry the car off to boost protection, and be done with it.
After you have the Collinite (or whatever you choose to use) on your paint, wash it as often as needed (no more, no less) with a mild, high quality car wash soap. Learn how to wash without doing damage to the paint. I use the multiple towel method (aka the Garry Dean Wash Method) instead of the two-bucket method as I feel it is safer. Use a drying aid when you dry the car off to boost protection, and be done with it.
TGATES
I got my Toyota Corolla brand new in sept 2024. When it rained the other day the rain on the paint is still beading up. I don’t know what they used on the paint at the factory to protect it but that is telling me that the protection they used is still holding up. So until the rain stop beading on my paint for now I don’t need to put anything on the paint to protect it.
I got my Toyota Corolla brand new in sept 2024. When it rained the other day the rain on the paint is still beading up. I don’t know what they used on the paint at the factory to protect it but that is telling me that the protection they used is still holding up. So until the rain stop beading on my paint for now I don’t need to put anything on the paint to protect it.
Setec Astronomy
Well-known member
Well, that's one way to look at it.So until the rain stop beading on my paint for now I don’t need to put anything on the paint to protect it.
I'm beginning to think PBMG hired you to increase the post count here.
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Setec Astronomy
Well-known member
Usually what the dealer puts on is crap. New paint beads for a while, anyway. If you want to be an Autopian, and you've had the car since Sept., and you haven't put any LSP on it, you'd better get cracking. Do eenie meanie minee mo (sp?) and pick something and get it on there.
setec
I ask a lot of questions because I am hear to learn.
I did not know that if I got the car in September and now it is April I should have already put a LSP on the car by now. I just thought since the paint is still beading up it did not need it yet.
Oh and another thing what is being an Autopian. Thanks
I ask a lot of questions because I am hear to learn.
I did not know that if I got the car in September and now it is April I should have already put a LSP on the car by now. I just thought since the paint is still beading up it did not need it yet.
Oh and another thing what is being an Autopian. Thanks
Do some reading on water beading and water sheeting behavior as an indicator of paint protection. It CAN be an indicator of fresh protection, but just because you see water beading does not mean the paint is protected. Fresh paint out of the paint booth with no protection applied will bead water, but it's not "protected". Really, it is, because of the clearcoat, but we're all talking wax here.
Also, water beads can get you in trouble as in my experience, they can act as little magnifying glasses after the sun comes out and etch the minerals in the water into your clearcoat as the water evaporates (water spotting) and make for a really bad day.
If you want my honest opinion, I think you should take the suggestions here and get to work. We've definitely veered off track of the original BOSS system topic, but that's okay. I've learned that a lot of detailing is anecdotal and subjective. At the end of the day, we're all doing what we feel is best or what we enjoy and there's not always a lot of science backing it.
I personally appreciate the traffic and questions. Lord knows this forum could use it. After you get started and have further questions, don't hesitate to come back here and ask.
Also, water beads can get you in trouble as in my experience, they can act as little magnifying glasses after the sun comes out and etch the minerals in the water into your clearcoat as the water evaporates (water spotting) and make for a really bad day.
If you want my honest opinion, I think you should take the suggestions here and get to work. We've definitely veered off track of the original BOSS system topic, but that's okay. I've learned that a lot of detailing is anecdotal and subjective. At the end of the day, we're all doing what we feel is best or what we enjoy and there's not always a lot of science backing it.
I personally appreciate the traffic and questions. Lord knows this forum could use it. After you get started and have further questions, don't hesitate to come back here and ask.
TGATES
Thanks for the info and help. I really appreciate it. Like I said I am here to learn. For me one of the hardest things is. To know when I have to reapply the LSP.
So I wash the car. Do decon if needed then put on LSP. How do you know when you need to reapply the sealant or wax or what ever it is called. That is what is hard for me to determine. Thanks.
Thanks for the info and help. I really appreciate it. Like I said I am here to learn. For me one of the hardest things is. To know when I have to reapply the LSP.
So I wash the car. Do decon if needed then put on LSP. How do you know when you need to reapply the sealant or wax or what ever it is called. That is what is hard for me to determine. Thanks.