Boars Hair Brush and ONR

I'm not sure it would work well. Part of ONR is the dirt sticking to the wash media, and with BHB, I'm not sure that will work well.
 
yakky said:
I'm not sure it would work well. Part of ONR is the dirt sticking to the wash media, and with BHB, I'm not sure that will work well.
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That's the way I see it too. Though I do use ONR/BHB combo when doing between-wash cleanups of wheels just because the long bristles get into tight spots.



IMO the ONR and BHBs just don't lend themselves to taking advantage of what each brings to the table. BHBs work best with a *LOT* of wash liquid flooding between the bristles, and between the brush and the surface being cleaned (which is why I always recommend using BHBs in conjunction with a foamgun). BHBs seem to work best with a "dislodge and flush" approach, which is very different from how ONR is usually used.



But I gotta admit I didn't work with it very much and it can take a *LOT* of experimentation to get a wash regimen all sorted out.
 
I'd love to know if the super-lubiness of the ONR makes the bristle shafts non-marring. I'd think it might, considering how it somehow coats dirt particles and makes them non-marring.
 
wfedwar said:
I'd love to know if the super-lubiness of the ONR makes the bristle shafts non-marring. I'd think it might, considering how it somehow coats dirt particles and makes them non-marring.
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Heh heh, you're not considering applying enough pressure that the bristles are all bent over against the paint are you ;)
 
Accumulator said:
Heh heh, you're not considering applying enough pressure that the bristles are all bent over against the paint are you ;)
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Actually I find it nearly impossible to use a brush and not get marring. I don't try to use pressure, but I'm obviously doing something wrong. I hate spending $60 on a stupid brush I can't even use. I guess I was just hoping this might provide more protection.
 
The reason I asked is I was looking at BHB's on autogeek and they said its the best thing to use to wash your car. I like using ONR and was seeing it a BHB could be used with it.
 
wfedwar said:
Actually I find it nearly impossible to use a brush and not get marring. I don't try to use pressure, but I'm obviously doing something wrong. I hate spending $60 on a stupid brush I can't even use. I guess I was just hoping this might provide more protection.
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Are you getting marring from the BHB itself or from the dirt?



The only places I really use BHBs without constant foamgun output is in the jambs and on the wheels, but I still occasionally CD-test the BHBs for those areas to make sure they're still OK.



When it comes to washing the body of the car with a BHB, technique is *VERY* important. And doing it marring-free without the foamgun is really, *REALLY*, hard, at least if the vehicle gets truly dirty between washes.
 
Accumulator said:
Are you getting marring from the BHB itself or from the dirt?



The only places I really use BHBs without constant foamgun output is in the jambs and on the wheels, but I still occasionally CD-test the BHBs for those areas to make sure they're still OK.



When it comes to washing the body of the car with a BHB, technique is *VERY* important. And doing it marring-free without the foamgun is really, *REALLY*, hard, at least if the vehicle gets truly dirty between washes.
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Well, I don't get any significant marring from lambswool or a grout sponge, which are the other two media I use. My BHB fails the CD test, even being as gentle as I can be. Almost positive its the brush. And yes I've tried letting it soak before doing the test.
 
wfedwar said:
Well, I don't get any significant marring from lambswool or a grout sponge, which are the other two media I use. My BHB fails the CD test, even being as gentle as I can be. Almost positive its the brush. And yes I've tried letting it soak before doing the test.
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Noting that we might be getting off-topic.....



I find that very interesting, the way you do better with the GS :think:



I guess your BHB's failing the CD-test is a big clue though. Which BHB is it? I haven't done a BHB comparison since the one I posted about maybe two years ago.
 
Accumulator said:
Noting that we might be getting off-topic.....



I find that very interesting, the way you do better with the GS :think:



I guess your BHB's failing the CD-test is a big clue though. Which BHB is it? I haven't done a BHB comparison since the one I posted about maybe two years ago.
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It's the PAC brush, not the newer blonde brushes they are selling now. I know you have seen epoxy on the bristles of these. I don't see epoxy, at least not near the end of the bristles.
 
wfedwar said:
It's the PAC brush, not the newer blonde brushes they are selling now. I know you have seen epoxy on the bristles of these. I don't see epoxy, at least not near the end of the bristles.
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Huh, interesting that, even without the epoxy contamination, it fails the CD-test. I myself would send it back...it's supposed to be OK for use on paint. I'm assuming you're using the proper technique and all that....



But if you see *any* epoxy on the bristles at all, then I'd think it's a :nono All it'd take is for a little speck of it to break loose and get pressed against the paint under pressure.
 
Accumulator said:
I'm assuming you're using the proper technique and all that....
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Well, all I know is that I've tried to use good technique and I still get marring. I try to keep the bristles on the tips and I don't try to scrub with it or anything. Maybe its just not for me. I got the brush about 3 years ago, so I won't try to return it. It took me a full year to figure out this was where my marring was coming from. I thought for a long time it was coming from drying towels.
 
wfedwar said:
Well, all I know is that I've tried to use good technique and I still get marring. I try to keep the bristles on the tips and I don't try to scrub with it or anything. Maybe its just not for me. I got the brush about 3 years ago, so I won't try to return it. It took me a full year to figure out this was where my marring was coming from. I thought for a long time it was coming from drying towels.
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Aha! Maybe the BHB is leaving microscopic (yet still abrasive) dirt behind. I always have to rewash with a mitt after using a BHB. But you did say it won't pass the CD-test anyhow..... :think:



Eh, we're taking this all off-topic, which is easy for me to do once a BHB discussion gets rolling!
 
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