BLACKFIRE LSP Cure Times???

jlineman said:
OK? I have two bottles of BF Deep Gloss Spray. Is this a different product from the Wet Diamond Polymer Spray. I don't see the BFDGS listed on the product page anymore?
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SP4449 said:
Use your bottles of BF Deep Gloss Spray with TPnS and then get your hands on the reformulated Polymer Spray. I'm using my DGS on my wife's two year old SUV while using the WDPS on my new ride.

It is my understanding that the GS was tweaked and improved upon creating the new WDPS. Most likely more polymers were added. Just my guess. I'm not sure I see a difference but its hard to tell since the SUV is pearl white and my ride is jet black.

Jim
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BF Deep Gloss is still an amazing product. At the time (when it was sold) it served dual duty as both a spray sealant and a quick detailer.

In improving the BLACKFIRE line we added a dedicated quick detailer which allowed us to focus Wet Diamond Polymer Spray as a more dedicated spray sealant. This isn't to say you cannot use it as a quick detailer (you can if you wish) but it really shines as a spray sealant.

 
OK! I think I got a little confused here! After stripping,claying, & polishing my car, I applied BFWDAFPP, left it for 9 hours, wiped it off & began applying Midnight Sun. While buffing, I noticed what appeared to be scratches (they weren't, but gave that appearance). I changed wax pad & towel(even though they were brand new & came with the wax). Same thing, but maybe not quite so bad. My thought is, should I have wiped the BFWDAFPP off first then start the cure countdown?
 
I may be the odd one here, but I dont like leaving any wax or sealant to dwell on the surface for very long, even indoors. Not long ago, I had to repair a black Escallade that a girl had waxed and parked in the sun for 2 hours to "cure". Needless to say, it didnt turn out the way she had expected lol.
 
Don Porter said:
OK! I think I got a little confused here! After stripping,claying, & polishing my car, I applied BFWDAFPP, left it for 9 hours, wiped it off & began applying Midnight Sun. While buffing, I noticed what appeared to be scratches (they weren't, but gave that appearance). I changed wax pad & towel(even though they were brand new & came with the wax). Same thing, but maybe not quite so bad. My thought is, should I have wiped the BFWDAFPP off first then start the cure countdown?
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So you let it sit on the car 9 hours, then took it off? Are you applied, waited 30min to buff, then applied another layer 9 hours later.

I have a feeling leaving it on the car for 9 hours, then buffing might be the issue, but not sure?
 
Todd Helme said:

BLACKFIRE Total Polish & Seal

In Use: If applying Total Polish & Seal by machine, the machine agitation of the product (or vigorous hand application) greatly accelerates the cure time. You can remove Total Polish & Seal with Wet Diamond Polymer Spray to increase protection instantly.


BLACKFIRE Wet Diamond Polymer Spray

In Use: By a function of its design, Polymer Spray can be topped or layered almost immediately. You can also use it to remove Total Polish & Seal and take advantage of the additional polymer content.


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Todd, did you really mean to say the spray REMOVE TPnS?
 
maybe its not recommended but i have used polymer spray as a drying aid as i dried off my vehicle and it did leave a noticeable gloss on the car.
 
glfahlc1 said:
maybe its not recommended but i have used polymer spray as a drying aid as i dried off my vehicle and it did leave a noticeable gloss on the car.
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It will work fine, BLACKFIRE Polymer Spray is water based so it can be used as a drying aid. The older version, Deep Gloss Spray, was a little less concentrated and played nicer in this regard. BLACKFIRE Polymer Spray is super concentrated and might be a little finicky (streak-prone) if over applied when drying.

A light mist is all that is really needed when using as a drying aid. I don't recommend it ONLY because if somebody gets a little trigger happy, they may end up with streaks that could require some effort to remove. However, once you get the amount needed right (one light mist per one-to-two panels), it works well.
 
question on the cure time for bf wdafpp and bf carnuba wax

is there any performance benefit or otherwise on adding layers of bf wdafpp 12 hours after the first coat?

for the wax, since it is wiped off immediately, how long do I have to wait to put a second coat on?
 
miker2012 said:
for the wax, since it is wiped off immediately, how long do I have to wait to put a second coat on?
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From page 1:

BLACKFIRE Midnight Sun Ivory Carnauba Wax
Dry Time: Not Applicable, remove wet
Cure Time: The polymers cure extremely fast, the wax may take 1-8 hours to fully harden depending on temperature and climate.
Recommendations: For maximum layering benefit wait 6-8 hours before topping with more wax.
In Use: The polymers and wax both cure/harden extremely fast, a second coat of wax can be applied almost immediately after the first has been removed with very little change in performance.
 
Wheelzntoys said:
From page 1:

BLACKFIRE Midnight Sun Ivory Carnauba Wax
Dry Time: Not Applicable, remove wet
Cure Time: The polymers cure extremely fast, the wax may take 1-8 hours to fully harden depending on temperature and climate.
Recommendations: For maximum layering benefit wait 6-8 hours before topping with more wax.
In Use: The polymers and wax both cure/harden extremely fast, a second coat of wax can be applied almost immediately after the first has been removed with very little change in performance.
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thx... thats the part I did not understand though

what does that mean "in use"? does that mean once applied and already been on for a period of time?

so basically, if I am putting on the wax fresh, I have to wait 6-8 hours?
 
miker2012 said:
thx... thats the part I did not understand though

what does that mean "in use"? does that mean once applied and already been on for a period of time?

so basically, if I am putting on the wax fresh, I have to wait 6-8 hours?
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put wax on
buff off excess
wait 6-8 hours
apply a 2nd coat if desired
 
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