Black Magic QD - use with Klasse/P21S?

randy98mtu

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So I got my Klasse, P21S and MF's, but now it's a lousy, rainy weekend so I'm just trying to read and learn more. I've seen lots of discussion about ingredients in different QD's and what should and shouldn't be used with Klasse/P21S. I just bought a bottle of Black Magic Wet Shine before I found this site. I'd hate to let it go to waste, but I'd hate more to use it if it's going to interfere with the effectiveness of either the Klasse or P21S I just bought. I've tried several searches and found a topic from last spring where someone seemed to really like Wet Shine. But nothing specifically about what's in it and if it's safe for use with these other products. Thanks for any help!
 
I would say you are fine because you are already using P21S. P21S is a canauba wax and to apply more Klasse you would have to remove the Klasse and P21S too. So if you already topped it with P21S, then you shouldn't have to worry about which QD to use. The problem with silicones and waxes in QDers comes in play when using QD in a bodyshop or using it between layers of Sealants.
 
I haven't applied the Klasse or P21S. The only thing I've put on the car since I bought it is Zymol combo cleaner/wax. No real sealers or glazes.
 
Well then if you plan on using Klasse, then I would suggest using a QD with no waxes or silicones(EagleOne wipe and shine is local or Final Inspection which is a bit harder to find) while applying it(in between layers of SG). If you plan to top with P21S, then after you are completely done with the Klasse you can use a QD with waxes and silicones.
 
Cool. That's what I was looking for. Is there a place to find out what is actually in each product? The bottles sure don't tell you anything!
 
just experience from other Autopians, or you can call the manufacturers and ask someone if it is bodyshop safe. I've heard the Meguiars help line isn't all that great, the people answering the phones don't have the info. Mike Phillips is here though and if you PM him, he'll prolly tell you about any Megiuars products.
 
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