Big Diffrent 2 Layer- Zymol

M

maxi

New member
I PREP MY NEW CAR 2007 BLACK METLIC GHARGER,allready dealr wax the car with meg 26 yellow wax. in 2007 march



iprep my car with meg color x + farecla top glaze + zymol destiny in left side



**isaw paint became more depth and not lose or head the metalic flake** im not satisfed ok!! maybe destiny more effect in light color .



i used zymol concours in right sid really fantastic is sutiable for dark color mor than destiny .** concourse darker rich color not mute the metalic ** im not happy with result because befor apply the wax its more refliction and top glaze more clarity when apply one coat of zymol i feel the refliction becam less and not like mirror but more depth with wax.





ithink one layer of carnuba is not enough after 24 hours ....with second coat with concourse wow its big deffrint the paint like crestal like mirror ..zymol not look like other wax watery looking or oily ...the type of shine with zymol is very clarlity and some refliction with more depth in color .......pinnacle more darker more watery looking but mute the metalic



ilike zymol because you can see the refliction and result from diffrent angel .





tommorw i will put second coat of destiny and i will see what happen ...



with out glaze i cant show any think its important step ..
 
Maxi!!!!! Good to hear from you. Congrats on the new car!!!!



Glad you are enjoying Concours, as it is one of my favorite waxes!!! But to go against the grain, I would not encourage you to put another wax over concours, even Destiny. It may look shiny, but to me you won't get a more consistent finish than you would with either another layer of concours or re-prepping the car and applying a fresh layer of Destiny over the bare paint. Let us know what you end up doing all the same. I am always glad to see a good zymol result!
 
halllllllo lbls1 :) nice to see y

really iapplyed concourse in left side and destniy in right but not yet finish igive every part in my car good time to make good prep ....now only rear and front bumper and roof need cleaing and i will show the picture ......



:ignore really lbls1 iwill take you advise in past ....i will order HD-CLEANS .



ithink if ineed more refliction than glaze ......yes glaze like mirrior show ..but not like hd-cleans ........but can i apply hd-cleans over pure glaze (hand glaze )......im sure 100% ,



in paint HD-CLEANS =70% WORK MORE THAN ZYMOL WAX AND IGIVE ZYMOL WAX 30 %TO MAKE PERFECT FINISH .



i dont know what the secert between this two product zymol wax +hd cleans its work togther only ,,,,i tried hd-cleans +souveran =nothing speacial

top glaze + concourse = good but not shiny enough (i will show the pic)



ihope to applying hd-cleans over the top glaze ? some rong with this step.
 
Well I don't really see a benefit of putting the hd cleanse over your glaze, as it will probably take it off. Hd cleanse is itself a glaze, so it won't hurt. I wouldn't do any extra work, though if your paint is prepped well. I'd say just choose your zymol and go to town!!!



You will be smiling like this:D when your all layered and done!
 
[quote name='lbls1']Well I don't really see a benefit of putting the hd cleanse over your glaze,





lbls1 imean i will cancel hand glaze step and use hd-cleans >>>you know why >>when use zymol wax you need strong pre wax i mean ,pre wax like sealant give you very bright shine like hd-clean ....and the depth and clarity com from zymol wax ....



for me ithink HD-cleans more important than zymol wax ..... itried :



meg color x + zymol wax = good combo



autoglym spr + zymolwax =nothing speacial (you need 3coat with SPR +zymol wax to make somthing special)



zymol hd-cleans+zymol wax=perfect beading water best refliction and clarity.



(if im not use hd -cleans for zymol wax ,ithink souveran and p21s become the winners.



really the important reson to use zymol product its safe in paint %200 .



there is some product icant trust of them like :



meg hyper wash :very conctrete like super wax not a shampoo

meg last touch : make fish eye in paint but the resullt wow !!?



((i have zymol cleaner wax was stay in store 4 years its not become oily or watery is not become like meg bottle wax after open its exp date soo soon..
 
All the cleaner will do is to make sure that the paint is bare and smooth. Zymol will do its work alone as long as the paint is prepped optimally. That is why I feel that you could conceivably use any paint cleaning/polishing system that is effective.



Remember, an Authentic Zymol isn't all about shine. You can get good sheen from almost any lsp. The key to zymol is its ability to render color, its perception of depth of reflection and its own characteristic even finish tone. But I'm sure that's not news to you!!!!
 
yes alwayes claying when washing my car, if ineed that. dont worry alwayes the paint in perfect condition ,iuse microfiber idont rub or moving MF when drying only set and up MF .



really itried souveran in small area ,ithink its look like zymol concourse but wattery- looking .....until now im not sure souveran is safe in clear coat >>i dont like wax too much oily in ingredante .ithink this oily harsh the laquer in the futher.



lbls1 souveren better than p21 try this in you cavalier black ....im sure its more frendliy in paint than p21s ,but 1 coat not enough like any carnuba



if im sure souveran is safe %100 in all paint iwill rate souveran1# ,best wax when you drive the car at night .
 
maxi said:
yes alwayes claying when washing my car, if ineed that. dont worry alwayes the paint in perfect condition ,iuse microfiber idont rub or moving MF when drying only set and up MF .



really itried souveran in small area ,ithink its look like zymol concourse but wattery- looking .....until now im not sure souveran is safe in clear coat >>i dont like wax too much oily in ingredante .ithink this oily harsh the laquer in the futher.



lbls1 souveren better than p21 try this in you cavalier black ....im sure its more frendliy in paint than p21s ,but 1 coat not enough like any carnuba



if im sure souveran is safe %100 in all paint iwill rate souveran1# ,best wax when you drive the car at night .
Click to expand...



I'll have to do that. There are several waxes that I have to try on the cav....just to see what they look like. Granted, I'm not trying to see if one of those will outdo a premium zymol, but at the same time I would really like to get a nice result with the least amount of work. To that end that is one of the reasons why I like p21s a lot. It goes on very easily, and with a few applications it gives a nice hard finish with decent reflective range. Grant you, its nowhere near the range of a good zymol, but it packs a nice whallop for the price.



If you don't have to, I'd skip the claying and get yourself a few good rounds of concours. You will not believe it. I do relate to your situation, as my cavalier's paint really gets the punishment, as I have to clay twice a year.
 
i was completed the left side with concoursex2 ,and right side with vintage x2 ,now iwill working in roof +bonnet +2bummper 3 .

the result is good .. ilike zymol when beading water not like other wax ,yes zymol not give the water chance to stay in surface. icant wash my car!!!!...but other wax sheeting water like film and take few seconds3-4



really ,ithink metalic paint is hard to show you most select the right product ...im going to souveran or p21 to show more mwtalic flakes



lbls1 your cava is black metalic?
 
maxi said:
i was completed the left side with concoursex2 ,and right side with vintage x2 ,now iwill working in roof +bonnet +2bummper 3 .

the result is good .. ilike zymol when beading water not like other wax ,yes zymol not give the water chance to stay in surface. icant wash my car!!!!...but other wax sheeting water like film and take few seconds3-4



really ,ithink metalic paint is hard to show you most select the right product ...im going to souveran or p21 to show more mwtalic flakes



lbls1 your cava is black metalic?
Click to expand...



Its a metallic black (onyx) 2 stage base/clear. Its got its good and bad points but so far its holding steady.
 
lbls1 did you saw the diffrent betwen zymol and othe wax when beading water.



yestrday iwashed my car with pressure isaid oooooh why zymol not beading water like apart un wax in car when i use pressure !!! in ahalf trunk iwaxed with z concourse and othe only glaze ....when use pressure water the glaze beading water under and condition but take some seconds 10 and beading water like film its remove from paint



but in zymol side ,with pressure the water set in no move ...and like small ball of water brith like art !!! ( heeeeee whats that no beading with zymol whats rong ? iknow zymol befor its best beading water) .note(first time use pressure in zymol and car)



but when i use water with out pressure with soft moving in car wow icant belive my eyes



zymol is deffrint ...zymol not give chance to water stay in surface 1 second not like other wax its take 5 or more seconds ,and wash after wash need more than 1min like NXT.



wash after wash zymol beading water for 2 month better than fresh coat of NXT .



lbls1 wait my clip i will download today ,specaliy y will like the clip.:getdown
 
I know man......the zymols scat water like crazy. No way a drop will settle on its skin. To this day I'm not sure which state of the zymol finish I like the best: when its freshly applied or when it has matured and layered over a couple of months. I really cannot emphasize how potent and deep the EGZ lsps are. They also age very well, as you could go on for more than a year with your finish (given that you can let it stay out of the elements, of course). A fresh zymol is something to behold though.....I'm already anxious for next year!
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top