David Fermani
Forza Auto Salon
I totally agree. Who cares. Just try the stuff and you'll see what all the fuss is about. People need to stop playing detailer on the internet and start detailing. :-t
Bfwd??
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I totally agree. Who cares. Just try the stuff and you'll see what all the fuss is about. People need to stop playing detailer on the internet and start detailing. :-t
imported_Flash Gordon
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But its not near as much fun @-)
imported_detailchick
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first time using the bfwd yesterday on a med blue( not so dark as i thought) honda yesterday . i did not notice it darkened the look of the paint but then again this was after polishing .
Its a really nice product , very easy on and off and YES very slick. I really like this product so far . The only trouble I had was getting used to the larger size hole and dumped way to much product on the applicator a couple of times . It goes on very thin and you dont need much.
Its a really nice product , very easy on and off and YES very slick. I really like this product so far . The only trouble I had was getting used to the larger size hole and dumped way to much product on the applicator a couple of times . It goes on very thin and you dont need much.
Garnerwolf
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I'm a newb so forgive me. Is it necessary to apply wax (BF Carnuba Paste) etc after the BFWD or is that just if I want it to really pop?
ZL1Mark
Allergic to One Product
No, not necessary at all. Personal preference.
bmw5541
New member
It all depends on what you like. Some people think that a sealant alone is cold and sterile, and adding a carnuba gives it a warmer look.
You really have to try out BFWD on it's own to see if it is for you. I haven't heard of too many people who felt the need to top it with anything though.
Last fall, I topped it with Collinite 845IW only for protection through the hard winter months. I have to admit that I was very hesitant to top it though. It really does rock on it's own.:rockon:
imported_BobbyG
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Sounds like a decent product, I'll have to take a close look at it and maybe give it a try..
GoFast908Z
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Go to Walmart and get their empty condiment squeeze bottles (like what you'd see for ketchup or mustard) and put the BFWD in that. It makes it SOOO much easier to apply smaller amounts.
imported_akimel
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Wet Diamond is my favorite synthetic sealant. Of coure, that may not such much, as I've only tried two other sealants (Reflections and NXT). I find it extremely easy to use.
I generally go the WOWO route, though this fall when I apply my two winter coats, I'll probably go with the whole wait until it fully dries before buffing off option. Two coats took me through much of the winter last year and I expect it will do so again. But we hit a day of warm weather in February (I think), so I took the opportunity to wash the car and then applied a coat of Reflections, maintained by Ultimate Quik Wax.
Wet Diamond gives a warm, reflective and slick finish. If there are better sealants out there, I really don't need to know about them.
At my spring detail I applied a coat of Wet Diamond, followed by two coats of Midnight Sun. I honestly cannot say that Midnight Sun truly adds anything to the Wet Diamond look. HOWEVER, I will say that this Fire & Ice combo generated two super-positive comments from people in two different parking lots. It gives a different look than, say, Souveran. It's a wetter look, I think. It really catches people's attention. Sometime in the future I'd like to try the Wet Diamond topped with Fuzion. I have a feeling that this might be an excellent combination. BUT ... Blackfire Wet Diamond stands on its own and does not need to be topped by any carnauba wax.
As we get into the summer months I do not use the Wet Diamond. I have too many carnauba waxes to try. I don't need to the extra durabiity that a synthetic sealant might provide. I will occasionally use M20 in order to clean the paint, which I then top with my flavor of the week. Souveran has been my August wax for Luthien. I love it. Next month, I'm thinking of trying out Victoria Concours Red. And in October, I'll use a pre-wax cleaner (probably Ultimate Pre-Wax Cleaner) to cleanse the paint and prepare it for two or three winter coats of Wet Diamond. I am wrestling whether to top Wet Diamond with FK 1000p or Collly 476s. Does anyone have any ideas? I think I prefer to go exclusively with BFWD.
Al
I generally go the WOWO route, though this fall when I apply my two winter coats, I'll probably go with the whole wait until it fully dries before buffing off option. Two coats took me through much of the winter last year and I expect it will do so again. But we hit a day of warm weather in February (I think), so I took the opportunity to wash the car and then applied a coat of Reflections, maintained by Ultimate Quik Wax.
Wet Diamond gives a warm, reflective and slick finish. If there are better sealants out there, I really don't need to know about them.
At my spring detail I applied a coat of Wet Diamond, followed by two coats of Midnight Sun. I honestly cannot say that Midnight Sun truly adds anything to the Wet Diamond look. HOWEVER, I will say that this Fire & Ice combo generated two super-positive comments from people in two different parking lots. It gives a different look than, say, Souveran. It's a wetter look, I think. It really catches people's attention. Sometime in the future I'd like to try the Wet Diamond topped with Fuzion. I have a feeling that this might be an excellent combination. BUT ... Blackfire Wet Diamond stands on its own and does not need to be topped by any carnauba wax.
As we get into the summer months I do not use the Wet Diamond. I have too many carnauba waxes to try. I don't need to the extra durabiity that a synthetic sealant might provide. I will occasionally use M20 in order to clean the paint, which I then top with my flavor of the week. Souveran has been my August wax for Luthien. I love it. Next month, I'm thinking of trying out Victoria Concours Red. And in October, I'll use a pre-wax cleaner (probably Ultimate Pre-Wax Cleaner) to cleanse the paint and prepare it for two or three winter coats of Wet Diamond. I am wrestling whether to top Wet Diamond with FK 1000p or Collly 476s. Does anyone have any ideas? I think I prefer to go exclusively with BFWD.
Al
imported_tropicsteve
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my first use of bfwd was on my 2000 ford f150 dark teal and yes, it did appear to darken the paint, but the results were so good, i didn't even care. friends who saw it also said it looked darker, but better. i recently used it on a friend's 2004 silver infiniti with no change in color at all, just the usual impressive finish.
bmw5541
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Al,
If you are looking for a winter topper for BFWD, I would use any of the Collinite products. Last fall I toped 2 coats of BFEW with 845IW and it lasted the entire winter here in NJ. The 845IW took nothing away from the look of the BFWD. It really is a great combo.
bmw5541
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You aint just whistling Dixie my friend!!!
imported_akimel
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Thanks for the suggestion, but I have decided, for my S2K, to stick with Wet Diamond this winter. It did a good job for me last winter and I expect it will do a good job for me this winter. My car is garaged, and while I do drive it through the winter months, my present unemployment usually allows me to stay at home when the weather is really bad, or I'll borrow my wife's CR-V. Hence the S2K does not, perhaps, need the full Collinite treatment. And I think I prefer the Wet Diamond look on my car than the 845 look--I think. Of course, I probably could not tell the difference in a blind test. I used 845 two winters ago and was very pleased with its durability. Indeed, I remember taking my car to a local detailer's garage for a hand wash in January 2009, and he was amazed by the beading. But I also recall having some hazing problems with 845 after the second coat. I'm sure it was user error, but I've never had any problems like that with BFW.
marcopolo112000
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I'm a total detailing noob. I used the BFWD today on my black FJ cruiser with great results, but I think I did it backwards in that I applied with PC7424 and a black CCS pad, then took it off by hand using a microfiber towel since I didn't have any more black or red pads,
Afterwards I was thinking that I should have applied by hand and then used the PC to buff it off. what do you guys think?
Here is what I did overall::clap::clap:
1. Washed with BF gloss enhancing shampoo and conditioner
2. BF poly clay.
3. full IPA wipe down
4. BFGEP with a white CCS pad via the PC7424
5. BFWD with a black CCS pad via the PC7424
6. Wipe down and final buff by hand with green microfiber towels.
This was my first time based on what I've red here on the site. Any suggestions to improve what I did?
Results are fantastic though if I do say so myself. It took out a few buffer trails (I bought it used with them already there in June) that were driving me crazy and it really minimized the spider web swirls to the point that you really have to look for them at the right angle to them now.
Now that I've lost my detailing virginity I think I'll order to Maguires 205 so I can have a go at trying to get those bug smears off the front of the hood and really take out the swirls.
Thanks to everyone who contributes on this site!
Afterwards I was thinking that I should have applied by hand and then used the PC to buff it off. what do you guys think?
Here is what I did overall::clap::clap:
1. Washed with BF gloss enhancing shampoo and conditioner
2. BF poly clay.
3. full IPA wipe down
4. BFGEP with a white CCS pad via the PC7424
5. BFWD with a black CCS pad via the PC7424
6. Wipe down and final buff by hand with green microfiber towels.
This was my first time based on what I've red here on the site. Any suggestions to improve what I did?
Results are fantastic though if I do say so myself. It took out a few buffer trails (I bought it used with them already there in June) that were driving me crazy and it really minimized the spider web swirls to the point that you really have to look for them at the right angle to them now.
Now that I've lost my detailing virginity I think I'll order to Maguires 205 so I can have a go at trying to get those bug smears off the front of the hood and really take out the swirls.
Thanks to everyone who contributes on this site!
bmw5541
New member
Everything is good except your application of the BFWD. The black pad has some cut to it and is not intended to apply an LSP. It is intended for a finishing polish.
CEE DOG
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I agree. You can apply most sealants by hand or machine. I prefer to remove by hand. Never tried the mf bonnets for removing. If I apply wax or sealant with machine I use the blue LC pad. Works great on the paints I've dealt with.
PAR Detailing
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I agree with both of them (hand or machine) either one is fine. Like I said in another thread, liquid sealants via machine and paste waxes by hand. Removal is all done by hand. I also agree the black pad has a slight cut to it so use something a wee bit softer