BFWD vs. MPL

MPL after 1 month on my 07 Yukon that is not garage kept.





Sorry cell phone pic so quality is not great.



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I happened to use BFWD (havn't used in a while) on a 360 Challenge Stradale today and I was totally impressed with the look. I still say it's the best looking sealant I have seen.



MPL is a superb sealant, and I am pretty sure it will last a very long time, but time will tell. The beading is intense so far.



I'll do a review on it in a few weeks.
 
Maybe I haven't been following these two products closely enough, but what's interesting to me in this thread is that there are several Z-heads here talking about sealants that are at the same price point as Z-2 (not factoring in ZFX, the sale price of MPL, or the larger bottles of both that are available).



What's the comparison to un-ZFX'd Z-2? Or ZFX'd Z-2 for that matter?



And can you go right over trim, glass, etc. with these products like you can with Zaino and others?
 
Ive used them both in fairly harsh conditions. If I had to pick one over the other, I would go with the blackfire. It lasts a little bit longer. Menzerna wins for easy on, easy off but durability goes to blackfire hands down.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Maybe I haven't been following these two products closely enough, but what's interesting to me in this thread is that there are several Z-heads here talking about sealants that are at the same price point as Z-2 (not factoring in ZFX, the sale price of MPL, or the larger bottles of both that are available).



What's the comparison to un-ZFX'd Z-2? Or ZFX'd Z-2 for that matter?



And can you go right over trim, glass, etc. with these products like you can with Zaino and others?





I guess I've been promoted to a Z-head? Great news! :cry::bawling:



Zaino IMHO has a much glossier appearance compared to BFWD's warm glow. BFWD also feels alot slicker/oily than Z as well. Both are super easy to apply, but have totally different workflows. I enjoy both, but prefer Z.



I've had bad experiences with BFWD on soft trim as well as reminants in cracks/crevices.



As far as pricing, Z-2/5 is rated @ 24 applications (for $15/$17) where BFWD can probably do 5 times that amount for $30. Totally different actually, but really isn't much of a concern for me though.
 
David Fermani said:
I guess I've been promoted to a Z-head? Great news! :cry::bawling:



Zaino IMHO has a much glossier appearance compared to BFWD's warm glow. BFWD also feels alot slicker/oily than Z as well. Both are super easy to apply, but have totally different workflows. I enjoy both, but prefer Z.



I've had bad experiences with BFWD on soft trim as well as reminants in cracks/crevices.



As far as pricing, Z-2/5 is rated @ 24 applications (for $15/$17) where BFWD can probably do 5 times that amount for $30. Totally different actually, but really isn't much of a concern for me though.



Can you elaborate on the problems with trim/cracks etc?
 
David Fermani said:
I've had bad experiences with BFWD on soft trim as



As far as pricing, Z-2/5 is rated @ 24 applications (for $15/$17) where BFWD can probably do 5 times that amount for $30. Totally different actually, but really isn't much of a concern for me though.



I don't see how you'd get 120 applications out of 16 oz of BFWD? Thats just under 1/15th of an ounce or .25 ml per car??? - this seems IMPOSSIBLE.



I've yet to use BFWD or MPL so I cannot comment directly.
 
I ended up going with the BFWD since I was happy with their earlier version I used to have. Very slick and easy on and off.

One question though. How long should it cure before applying wax on top?
 
Can anyone comment on using BFWD as a total-car coverage product? I'd like to be able to use it on headlights, exterior plastics, door handles, etc.
 
Well after many months of playing with with MPL and comparing it to other products, I will say that it is very easy to apply and remove. The durability has been good, but not great.



If I had to choose between MPL and BFWD, I choose BFWD hands down.
 
I've never had an issue with BFWD on trim - if I do get some on trim, I wipe it off with a MF towel dampened with a little APC. And I apply BFWD with a LC Gold pad via a PC - speed 3, also I'm sure I use 10x as much as Dave does but it works fine.
 
I have yet to bust out my MPL...but I'm planning on having RickRack apply it when he cleans up my car this week :)

As for BFWD, it's a favorite of mine. Its easy on/off with a PC, slickness, and slightly warm look is too good to pass up. It can't hurt having both on hand, especially when both can be had at a very reasonable price with discounts and sales.
 
ProStreetCamaro said:
MPL after 1 month on my 07 Yukon that is not garage kept.





Sorry cell phone pic so quality is not great.



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That beading is horrible. Product will be dead in another month.
 
gofast908z said:
Can you elaborate on the problems with trim/cracks etc?



I've noticed product transfer on belt moldings of a new Porsche & Mustang. I slipped up both times and went over them slightly when I was applying it via DA. It wouldn't wipe off and I needed to scrub it with APC/toothbrush. Both of these moldings were very soft and porous. Not a biggie however and most sealants do the same thing anyways. It also did it on the dried out roof rack trim of my wife's minivan. Showed up after I washed it.



Mindflux said:
I don't see how you'd get 120 applications out of 16 oz of BFWD? Thats just under 1/15th of an ounce or .25 ml per car??? - this seems IMPOSSIBLE.



I've yet to use BFWD or MPL so I cannot comment directly.



120....probably not, but I've applied this to 40+ applications and I'm about 50% into the bottle. I use only about 10 small drops on an average application.



rydawg said:
Well after many months of playing with with MPL and comparing it to other products, I will say that it is very easy to apply and remove. The durability has been good, but not great.



If I had to choose between MPL and BFWD, I choose BFWD hands down.



Not that's one heck of an endorcement right there!!



JuneBug said:
I've never had an issue with BFWD on trim - if I do get some on trim, I wipe it off with a MF towel dampened with a little APC. And I apply BFWD with a LC Gold pad via a PC - speed 3, also I'm sure I use 10x as much as Dave does but it works fine.



You're totally right. A LC Gold pad is a must have for this product. It won't absorbe into the pad and makes for incredible spreadability.
 
David Fermani said:
Not that's one heck of an endorcement right there!

I Have used BFWD for 1.5 years ow and just love it all around, The look is amazing and every customer comments on it. Well I am sure it's mostly on my intense work, but they do love how BFWD looks on their perfectly polished paint.
 
David Fermani said:
120....probably not, but I've applied this to 40+ applications and I'm about 50% into the bottle. I use only about 10 small drops on an average application.



10 small drops for an entire car? How does that even provide a protective layer, I don't understand.



I've just ordered some, undecided to use a foam hand applicator or a crimson hydrotech pad.
 
bigfoot said:
Can't talk about MPL, but with BFWD you need to apply it THIN!



Just want to comment on this as I think it needs clarification. You don't "need to" apply it thin. You should because a little goes a long way. Applying a little extra and putting it on thick will not be any harder to remove in my experiences with it. With it being very runny, it is easy to accidentally apply to much to the pad.



schiddy said:
10 small drops for an entire car? How does that even provide a protective layer, I don't understand.



I've just ordered some, undecided to use a foam hand applicator or a crimson hydrotech pad.



BFWD just keeps going and going lol. You'll see!
 
schiddy said:
10 small drops for an entire car? How does that even provide a protective layer, I don't understand.



I've just ordered some, undecided to use a foam hand applicator or a crimson hydrotech pad.



I highly suggest getting a LC Gold pad. You'll see exactly what I mean.
 
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