Best application for WINTER!

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58fury

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i normally apply meg #20 for the winter, washing with dawn first, i usually clay durning the end of the summer, just wondering what everyone else does?? i also use S100 on a reg basis, so i may apply a coat on top of #20 as well?
 
yeah go right ahead and apply that caranuba over the sealant. It will make your finish look better(not provide that much more protection bc polymer is the best protection). Im also thinking of using #20 after my #26 starts to lose its durability next month!!!
 
4DR Turbo said:
not sure? but from what ive read/heard, #20 is the longest lasting and the most durable
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Correct. #20 is a polymer based product with a very mild cleaner in it. It is much more durable than any carnauba.



Blitz is very nice for a carnauba but don't expect it to last longer than 60 days, less in harsh weather.
 
Im thinking about buying #20 just to keep in my arsenal. Will water bead up like it does on carnubas like #26 or S100? Or is there any other way ill know when I need to reapply. OR, do you guys think its only good to apply during winter time? After using S100 today, I dont mind waxing often.
 
i guess if you wanted to you could apply #20 and thats it, but its always best to apply your wax (S100) after, and yes water will bead with #20 alone, #20 lasts from what ive read about 4-6 months, ive always only used #20 pre winter, and also on my rims as well, normally i use S100 about once or so a month, i also clay once a year usually in the spring/summer.
 
Layering is the key for me. Most products we are mentioning here are very adequate to do the task. The thing is that if I layer I feel ( note I said I feel not know, I am not a scientist after all!!) there is more protection/longer duration of the polymer sealant. Yes, a sealant is required and I us AIO and 5xSG. Then I top with a high quality carnuba (I know it does not give any longevity, but, I like waxing!!):)
 
I'd like to see #20 vs. AIO by itself. I use AIO on my wheels because I like to have a sealant with cleaning power. I don't use SG most of the time because every time I use AIO again, it will just strip it off. Does anyone know if #20 will outlast AIO?

How about the cleaning properties of #20? Are they equal to AIO? (I have a feeling it is not as strong a cleaner as AIO.)

Thanks! Regards, Eric
 
AIO wouldn't last very long since it's a paint cleaner which can't be layered. SG is a polymer sealant and can be layered.. From what I've heard SG can last up to and beyond 6mo.
 
EricGTI said:
I'd like to see #20 vs. AIO by itself. I use AIO on my wheels because I like to have a sealant with cleaning power. I don't use SG most of the time because every time I use AIO again, it will just strip it off. Does anyone know if #20 will outlast AIO?

How about the cleaning properties of #20? Are they equal to AIO? (I have a feeling it is not as strong a cleaner as AIO.)

Thanks! Regards, Eric
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#20 has fewer cleaners in it - they're probably only there to help the #20 stick. If I had to guess, I'd say the #20 would last longer because of this. AIO's main job in the Klasse system is to clean/polish, while #20's job is mainly to protect and doesn't really advertise any cleaning function.
 
I first used #20 before last winter and I was very impressed with it. Maybe it's just my novice eye, but the shine is fantasic! It's really easy to apply/buff off. The only problem I've had with it is it seems to cure for a while. A couple of hours later, I had to re buff some sections. Even a couple months later after several washings! It seemed to happen more when I'd park the vehicle in the sun. Very weird. I've done a couple of other cars and this hasn't happened, who knows. #20 is probably the only thing I'll use on the Durango since it's such a beast to detail. I plan to clay it once in the spring, and #20 it twice a year. It is the family utility vehicle and it's silver so it doesn't need the babying my black car needs.
 
#20 beads better than any Carnauba I've seen, especially after 1 month.



STLB5: I find that #20 very difficult to see when on a silver or white car. You may have just missed some spots. It's best to use a low incident angle light source to check your buffing, or take it out in the sunlight. Also, make sure you are using very thin coats. Thick coats make it very difficult to buff off properly.
 
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