Best 1000-2000 scratch compound?

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nawcor

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Looking for opinions on the most efficient 1000-2000 scratch compound / swirl remover.. I have personally used some 3m products and prowax products, looking to see of any other opinions out there.
 
M105. 'Nuff said. Works by Hand, DA, or Rotary. (Says orbital too, but not sure if that is true for sanding mark removal).
 
I don't think I'd try to compound out 1K scratches, but if I *had* to I might want to use some rocks-in-a-bottle stuff (e.g., 3M Extra Cut) instead of the M105 :think: I *really* like M105 and it works like magic on stuff in the 2k range, but for real *leveling* I kinda lean towards the older big-abrasive stuff.



I'd always follow really aggressive sanding with milder sanding, and *then* compound.



Note that others here have infinitely more experience with such stuff that I do...
 
I agree with Accumulator and follow the 1k sanding scratches with something like 1500 and 2000.Then compound out with m105 or 3m ECC.I know 3m Super Duty will take out 1000 grit scratches but the finish it leaves is horrible.



Chris
 
I disagree, and would say that Menzerna Power Gloss is better than all of these. It cuts very very well, and very quickly.







John
 
M105 is tough to beat. Also, it is so much easier to clean up. The Menz PG is a great product but doesnt have the cut i think you need. 3M extra cut is a nice product and has a bit more cut than 105 but there is going to be a much larger mess on the paint when used.



Personally I think sanding down is the best way to go but most are not comfortable wet sanding. I would say if had to have only one product it would def. be M105. User friendly, finishes by far the best of any heavy cut compound.
 
Thanks for the input so far, and to clear things up.. I actually meant 1000, followed by 2000 then buff :doh



How about a good swirl remover to follow the highly favored 105?
 
nawcor said:
Thanks for the input so far, and to clear things up.. I actually meant 1000, followed by 2000 then buff :doh



How about a good swirl remover to follow the highly favored 105?
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Howzabout 205? Finishes as nice as anything I've used. ADS has trial-sized 12 oz bottles of each available if you don't find yourself using it often enough for the larger sizes. Comes in a nice Yorker-style dispenser bottle too!



TL
 
Haven't tried the 205 but it sounds like another good product from all of the reviews. When it comes to anything other than compounds, I think it is tough to beat the Menz products. SIP is a fantastic product!!! and thanks to the hint from Rydawg about the amount to use, the bottle lasts forever. SIP on a white pad will clear up swirls and compound haze. Like 105, if you had to chose only one product I would say SIP. I try all of the others but those bottles just sit around (optimum, SS, Moose)



Third step is up to you. Ultrafina, PO85rd, 106FA (FF) but none of these products have much cut. I use them for gloss and maybe very light swirls.
 
nawcor said:
Thanks for the input so far, and to clear things up.. I actually meant 1000, followed by 2000 then buff :doh



How about a good swirl remover to follow the highly favored 105?
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I agree with others, M205. Meguiar's MADE M205 for the purpose of being a "universal" 1-2 system with M105 for paint correction.



It's fantastic stuff, and really awesome and easy to work with and remove. No dusting like a lot of the Menzerna stuff like 106ff.
 
Thanks for the reply but I think I have confused myself, so let me get it right..



After applying M105 for buffing the scratches, this would be followed my M205 to remove any swirls etc, does m205 also act as a 'wax' or do I need to follow the M205 with a third product? Suggestions?
 
JohnKleven said:
I disagree, and would say that Menzerna Power Gloss is better than all of these. It cuts very very well, and very quickly.

John
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John - what kind of pad/machine/technique/amount of product are you using with MPG? That product never worked well for me, but I'd be interested in hearing if there was another way of working it that I overlooked.
 
nawcor said:
Thanks for the reply but I think I have confused myself, so let me get it right..



After applying M105 for buffing the scratches, this would be followed my M205 to remove any swirls etc, does m205 also act as a 'wax' or do I need to follow the M205 with a third product? Suggestions?
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Yes, any good sealant or wax should work over M205. I would recommend turning any sort of major defect removal into a three step process - M105/wool cutting pad, M105/white foam polishing pad, M205/blue or black foam finishing pad.



I like to then wipe the car down with a solvent or rewash to remove any oils, then apply Zaino or Einszett Glanz Wax.
 
nawcor said:
Thanks for the reply but I think I have confused myself, so let me get it right..



After applying M105 for buffing the scratches, this would be followed my M205 to remove any swirls etc, does m205 also act as a 'wax' or do I need to follow the M205 with a third product?
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Just to expand on what themightytimmah posted: the M105 oughta take care of any swirls/etc. and will leave things quite nice. The M205 just spruces the finish up a bit more so it's *really* in ready-to-wax condition.



Depending on what LSP (wax/etc.) you plan to use, I'd only do the solvent/rewash if you really *need* to do it, but that's just me (some people always/usually do it, some people seldom do).





Yeah, the "third product", which you'll use after the M205, will be the wax.
 
Up To Eleven said:
How about following M105 with M80 instead of M205? Is there much difference between M80 and M205?
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That oughta work fine on most paints. #80 has long been the standard follow-up polish in the Meg's line.
 
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