Bence's Fault: FK 1000P

I don't use SG much anymore, but that's one of the things I like about #16, 845 and other pure waxes and I guess the WOWA's (which I have only dabbled with) is that you can just go over everything, paint, trim, glass, rubber (all the window and sunroof surrounds) without worrying and it all looks great.
 
Picus said:
1) Glad Supe is back.



2) Silly Supe, makin' me order junk.
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Thanks, Picus. :)



Denzil said:
I guess I'll have to pick up some 1000P and Pink Wax myself, hehe. Here goes the vicious cycle again Supe, LoL.
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Hmm.. Maybe I can get one of those jobs where you yell in front of a TV camera and sell stuff...



Actually, I refuse to buy any of the stuff that guy (what's his name? Billy something or other?) promotes just cause I hate their advertising so bad.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
I don't use SG much anymore, but that's one of the things I like about #16, 845 and other pure waxes and I guess the WOWA's (which I have only dabbled with) is that you can just go over everything, paint, trim, glass, rubber (all the window and sunroof surrounds) without worrying and it all looks great.
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Yeah, and I can hopefully say this without starting another long thread on it, since we've already had one recently... that's why I like Vintage, too. Anything that's exposed to the outside of the car gets covered when I do Vintage. I haven't tried that with 1000p, though. Now you have me curious... think I'll go purposely 1000P some trim today and see what happens...
 
I don't know about staining trim either. I'm like Supe....when using 1000P, if I get it on a section of trim, I immediately wipe it off.



Also, I've never had a difficult time removing 1000P. I've even applied it super thick on purpose just to see if it's a pain....still no issues.
 
ah thanks Eisenhulk, that's good to hear.

have to give it a try one of these days.





anyone spoken to the folks at fk1 ? wonder if what the shelf life is for this one. its a real big tin and will take ages to use up.





and I think I might know the answer to this... but seeing that this is a sealant paste, I think I'm right to say that I would have to do a complete paint clean with something like 501 DG to have a fresh clean surface to accept 1000p right ?

currently have souveran on the car, and I dont think I can just put 1000p on top like that.



depending on time constraints, I might have to opt for putting on a carnuaba on top of the souveran. but I'm keeping my fingers crossed that I have the whole evening to myself, so I can do the 501 , then finally have my first try with the 1000p
 
Would anyone recommend layering this on top of Klasse SG, or should run this wax alone on freshly polished paint.



I too ordered a tin . . . damn autopia . . . :)



Dave
 
buja said:
ah thanks Eisenhulk, that's good to hear.

have to give it a try one of these days.



anyone spoken to the folks at fk1 ? wonder if what the shelf life is for this one. its a real big tin and will take ages to use up.





and I think I might know the answer to this... but seeing that this is a sealant paste, I think I'm right to say that I would have to do a complete paint clean with something like 501 DG to have a fresh clean surface to accept 1000p right ?

currently have souveran on the car, and I dont think I can just put 1000p on top like that.



depending on time constraints, I might have to opt for putting on a carnuaba on top of the souveran. but I'm keeping my fingers crossed that I have the whole evening to myself, so I can do the 501 , then finally have my first try with the 1000p
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crew219 said:
Would anyone recommend layering this on top of Klasse SG, or should run this wax alone on freshly polished paint.



I too ordered a tin . . . damn autopia . . . :)



Dave
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Yeah, one tin will last a really long time. I would guess I've done a total of 40 applications out of my tin and I'm not quite half way through it.



This is just my personal opinion/belief regarding LSP's, so take it with the proverbial grain of salt... I like my base LSP to be applied either to bare paint, or over the top of a compatible glaze. And the glaze is put on bare paint. Either freshly PrepSol'd or IPA'd. DWG makes a great base for 1000P, where as carnauba-friendly glazes (RMG, etc.) do not. Just ask Greg Nichols. :) (Sorry, Greg, I couldn't help it.) I believe that putting an LSP on anything other than bare paint negatively effects its durability. Having said that, I would put a nuba over a sealant, but I don't put sealants over nubas. I just don't expect the top LSP to last as long as it normally would. Nubas will (usually) bond well to a sealant, but the reverse typically isn't true. I would imagine that 476S over 1000p would be a killer winter combo.
 
I used KAIO as a base for the FK1000P when I applied it to some wheels, and that worked great (not surprisingly as the KAIO is probably pretty similar to FK2180, the recommended base for FK1000P).



This is a big ?Q? for me too, but I assume that stuff that UPP bonds to (e.g., 1Z Pro MP, KAIO, ZAIO) oughta work OK.



SuperBee364 said:
Now you have me curious... think I'll go purposely 1000P some trim today and see what happens...
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Ah, that'll save me the trouble of doing it :D



This might be a case where a semi-W-O-W-O approach will work best; sometimes an excess of product can lead to issues when it dries in the texture of trim even though the product itself is basically pretty trim-friendly (I've had this happen with stuff like #16).
 
very wise words Supe.



that's why I've chosen DG 501 to clean. It is very good for what it is meant to do , and im sure it is compatible with synthetic (sealants) . so yeah 1000p will play well.



now im also considering pink wax since it is inter changeable layerable (i think) .



and im thinking that after a few healthy layers of 1000p has been laid down sufficiently, it would be good to have the sacrificial beauty carnauba layer on top for the killer looks :)
 
Fallguy said:
I always compared it to adding a layer of clear coat to your car. Wait til you get a few coats on it ....OMG !!
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That sounds great on metallics, not so sure about solid dark colors where I have yet to find a sealant that looks as good as a carnauba. :nixweiss
 
Scottwax said:
That sounds great on metallics, not so sure about solid dark colors where I have yet to find a sealant that looks as good as a carnauba. :nixweiss
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Aged 1000P does look pretty good on solid darks, probably the best of the sealants, but I gotta agree with Scott on this one: you can't beat a good carnauba on solids.



I'd love to hear/see other's experiences with 1000p on dark solids.
 
SuperBee364 said:
Aged 1000P does look pretty good on solid darks, probably the best of the sealants, but I gotta agree with Scott on this one: you can't beat a good carnauba on solids.



I'd love to hear/see other's experiences with 1000p on dark solids.
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What is 1000P, scotch? :p



On solid darker colors it has a tendency to make the paint look mirror like, chrome like, as opposed to say, souveran, which imparts a wet, shimmery look.



I rinse the applicator with water and squeeze it out. Spray with Fk425 and get to work.



I +2 the comment on cleaning the applicators (foam/MF), avoid saturating the applicator. I prefer MF applicators with 1000P and dedicate one for it. I rinse the applicator, then apply Dawn Direct Foam generously, working it in, let stand for a 10-15 minutes, rinse, repeat. Rinse thoroughly.



I find 2 coats at at a time to be best, accumulating up to 6 or more, for outstanding durability. Better than Zaino in every regard, IMO/IME, and I am no Zaino slouch.
 
FWIW, you can go to the gallery and there's a photo of my black Porsche with 1000P on it. I do think that (as Scott and others have noted) it's better on metallics. I haven't layered PW over it though, which could change the look. Also, my photo skills are certainly not the best, so I don't think the photo I provided FK does the product justice. As you can see, the other black vehicles in the gallery look a bit more "plastic" than my car does.



On my Landcruiser (medium metallic gray) 1000P topped with FX-100 is very nice.



I really like 1000P on wheels too.
 
Scottwax said:
That sounds great on metallics, not so sure about solid dark colors where I have yet to find a sealant that looks as good as a carnauba. :nixweiss
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I agree with the look of a carnuba on a solid color.
 
This stuff sounds really great! Right now I am using opti-seal. Would the shine and depth on a silver metallic be better with 1000p than opti-seal?



Also does this stuff dry clear, and can it be used on plastic trim like opti-seal? Those are two features of opti-seal I really like. How about the same for pink wax, dry clear and plastic friendly also?



Thanks
 
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