Before I Zaino......

I think you'll find that here most dislike the use of dish soap on there cars finish and rubber trim.It's an argument in itself.
 
04BlackAV said:
I think you'll find that here most dislike the use of dish soap on there cars finish and rubber trim.It's an argument in itself.
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I understand that it is NOT good for every wash, but that it can be beneficial for such applications of a system such as Zaino on it's initial use.
 
If you are polishing, what's the purpose of Dawn?



There are many alternatives to Dawn even if you aren't polishing.



Just because the almighty Sal recommends it, doesn't mean it's right.



It's really not a good idea to come on this site quoting the Zaino website. ;)
 
ZaneO said:
If you are polishing, what's the purpose of Dawn?



There are many alternatives to Dawn even if you aren't polishing.



Just because the almighty Sal recommends it, doesn't mean it's right.



It's really not a good idea to come on this site quoting the Zaino website. ;)
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The reason Sal recommends using a household detergent is because he doesn't know if a user is going to polish or not. The old wax needs to be stripped off somehow and many car shampoos won't do that job. So he recommends a well known, affordable, easy to find, effective detergent for a ONE TIME wash. Are there other detergents that will do the same job? Sure! But people want *specific* recommendations so that what Sal gives them.



And, personally, I'd follow the recommendations from Sal than what I read from 99% of the people on the internet, most of whom are just parroting something they read elsewhere.
 
ZaneO said:
If you are polishing, what's the purpose of Dawn?



There are many alternatives to Dawn even if you aren't polishing.



Just because the almighty Sal recommends it, doesn't mean it's right.



It's really not a good idea to come on this site quoting the Zaino website. ;)
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Ok, let's hear your suggested substitutes for the Dawn wash, please.
 
ZaneO said:
Washing with Z7 is not necessary because you are going to remove any benefits left by it when polishing.



If you are worried about bonding go over your car with 50/50 water/alcohol.
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I think it's always better to wash (with whatever you use) after claying /before applying anything else. And there is a reason Dawn is recomended for the initial wash.
 
ZaneO said:
If you are polishing, what's the purpose of Dawn?



There are many alternatives to Dawn even if you aren't polishing.



Just because the almighty Sal recommends it, doesn't mean it's right.



It's really not a good idea to come on this site quoting the Zaino website. ;)
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Dawn is reccomended because it DOES take everything off. Wash your hands with it then notice how dry they are. It takes all the old waxes/oils off. It isn't best for everyday use on your vehicle. Other "dishsoaps" will probably do the job too but the point is to get everything off the paint before you start. Soaps made specifically for vehicles are milder so they don't remove your favorite polish/wax.
 
Zaino guy said:
I think it's always better to wash (with whatever you use) after claying /before applying anything else. And there is a reason Dawn is recomended for the initial wash.
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Are you not listening? We are talking about polishing after claying.
 
Zaino guy said:
Dawn is reccomended because it DOES take everything off. Wash your hands with it then notice how dry they are. It takes all the old waxes/oils off. It isn't best for everyday use on your vehicle. Other "dishsoaps" will probably do the job too but the point is to get everything off the paint before you start. Soaps made specifically for vehicles are milder so they don't remove your favorite polish/wax.
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That is why I listed other methods for removing wax/oil/sealant, etc. Those methods don't damage other parts of your car like rubber and plastic.



"Wash your hands with it then notice how dry they are"...that's what it does to those parts of your car, too.



I'm done with this thread because you guys are hopeless and will always argue.



:xyxthumbs
 
ZaneO said:
It's really not a good idea to come on this site quoting the Zaino website. ;)
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Your opinion is noted, but do you have a proven sealant that you are selling? NO...Do you have the experience of such a man as Sal? Probably not. Since you don't know me and I nor you...why would YOU tell ME what to and what NOT to post? I merely asked you to answer my question with your opinion...not play God to me.



:shocked
 
oklagmcruiser, you are the reason why all Zaino users are branded "Zealots".



You ask for an opinion on a forum and then disrespect a well respected gentleman because of his response? :nono



EDITED: Removed "Zaino Guy" from originally post. I realized his name should not have been included in the post and have apologized.
 
Okay, I lied. I'll reply to you.



I'm not playing God or telling you what to do. I was suggesting that if you detailing knowledge doesn't extend beyond the Zaino instructions, then there is a good chance you will get reemed on this website. My bad for trying to give you a pointer. I apologize.



I'm out. You guys have a great night.



Thanks, dternst!
 
ZaneO said:
Are you not listening? We are talking about polishing after claying.
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Actually I'm reading but after claying there is usually some debris/residue which IMO should be washed off rather than polished off.
 
dternst said:
You two guys, Zaino guy and oklagmcruiser, are the reason why all Zaino users are branded "Zealots".



You ask for an opinion on a forum and then disrespect a well respected gentleman because of his response? :nono [/ QUOTE]



If you are branded anything it is because of your own actions not mine. I don't believe anything I posted was disrespectful in anyway. I'm not here for flame wars or product bashing. I just merely stated that I didn't agree with his answer and offered why I thought that way, not to flame but to answer the original question in another way.
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Zaino guy said:
dternst said:
You two guys, Zaino guy and oklagmcruiser, are the reason why all Zaino users are branded "Zealots".



You ask for an opinion on a forum and then disrespect a well respected gentleman because of his response? :nono [/ QUOTE]



If you are branded anything it is because of your own actions not mine. I don't believe anything I posted was disrespectful in anyway. I'm not here for flame wars or product bashing. I just merely stated that I didn't agree with his answer and offered why I thought that way, not to flame but to answer the original question in another way.
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You're correct and I apologize for adding your name to the post.
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ZaneO said:
Okay, I lied. I'll reply to you.



I'm not playing God or telling you what to do. I was suggesting that if you detailing knowledge doesn't extend beyond the Zaino instructions, then there is a good chance you will get reemed on this website. My bad for trying to give you a pointer. I apologize.



I'm out. You guys have a great night.



Thanks, dternst!
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How about AMBR at Oakland? Would you consider that as to having SOME detailing exp/knowledge?
 
Zaino guy said:
dternst said:
You two guys, Zaino guy and oklagmcruiser, are the reason why all Zaino users are branded "Zealots".



You ask for an opinion on a forum and then disrespect a well respected gentleman because of his response? :nono [/ QUOTE]



If you are branded anything it is because of your own actions not mine. I don't believe anything I posted was disrespectful in anyway. I'm not here for flame wars or product bashing. I just merely stated that I didn't agree with his answer and offered why I thought that way, not to flame but to answer the original question in another way.
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 Ron I didn't mean to drag you into any flame wars or anything...If someone would read my original post they would see that I was merely requesting the man's opinion. I feel I was attacked for quoting another person's opinion. I, for one, have only used Zaino products a couple of times, but like the end result. I know there are alternative measures to remove residue...just wanted to hear his alternative measures to do so. Seems all are quick to shoot down another's opinion quickly here. If Zaino is not a product of your choice...what is? I was not trying to disrespect any of the members...I apologize for going off the handle last night.



:nixweiss
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